Im just reporting on what I was told from someone who works for BT and this new Labour proposal has gone down like a lead balloon. Not the type of reaction Labour would want especially in a Labour heartland where I live.
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Im just reporting on what I was told from someone who works for BT and this new Labour proposal has gone down like a lead balloon. Not the type of reaction Labour would want especially in a Labour heartland where I live.
What guy?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Ah, so not what you have been told, but what someone esle says they were told?
Someone told someone told you.
You sticking there, or was it perhaps someone told someone told someone told you?
RoyReed
Must fly!
We'd all have superfast fibre to the home by now (not necessarily free) if it hadn't been for Thatcher.
How Thatcher killed the UK's superfast broadband before it even existed
How Thatcher killed the UK's superfast broadband before it even existed
pseudonarcissus
fluttering and dancing
who remembers waiting months for the GPO to install a telephone line?
Who remembers ration books and gays being illegalwho remembers waiting months for the GPO to install a telephone line?
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Used to heat our homes with coal. That's what socialism does to you.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
What do they do for BT? Who else is in their WhatsApp group? Where in the Labour heartland are they? What's their wider financial situation, what wage are they on, do they invest money? Even taking your comment at face value it's still an irrelevant anecdote from the life of someone no one here knows nor has any particular reason to believe.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
who remembers waiting months for the GPO to install a telephone line?
I used to have one of their ex-vans like that, it was my 'Pilton Hilton' for Glastonbury & other festivals.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
who remembers waiting months for the GPO to install a telephone line?
Took four months to get my phone lined fixed this year, couple of months seems quite preferable by comparison. As it turned out, according to the engineer, they had new and old gear at the exchange. If you weren't lucky then you'd be put on the old stuff, which cut out a lot on internet & phone calls. He got us switched over and suddenly it works.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
Still no answer to the big question - Labour claims it'll only cost £230m pa to maintain the network, yet the actual figure is over £2bn, it's as if they missed a zero when putting the figures into their spreadsheet.
Not actually free, Nationalised so taxpayer funded.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Not really - noone knows what the actual figure is, as the network doesn't yet exist.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Where's the 2bn figure come from?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
It is (I think) the cost of maintaining the current network.
That’s irrelevant- Labour are pledging free shit for all in hope it will detract from their position on Brexit.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
who remembers waiting months for the GPO to install a telephone line?
My dad has been without a landline and with a BT supplied mobile and dongle for nearly two years now. Unfortunately the network they are with doesn’t cover his house, so he’s having to pay for a Vodaphone one too and claim the cost back from BT each month. So yeah, private companies, efficiency etc...
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Where's that coming from? Either way, we pay the costs of maintenance anyway.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
They plan to take-over the Openreach network, with 32,000 employees costing £850m pa in wages, before you add in the costs of actually running the network, and associated costs like offices, vehicles, etc., etc.
Simple maths, that doesn't add-up to to £230m a year!
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Labour have spent the last few years promoting policies beyond Brexit. If you imagine they're suddenly just using them as a distraction tactic then you're wrong. Sure, even if you want to criticise their Brexit policy it's a nonsense to say that their other focuses are based on distraction.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
They plan to take-over the Openreach network, with 32,000 employees costing £850m pa in wages, before you add in the costs of actually running the network, and associated costs like offices, vehicles, etc., etc.
Simple maths, that doesn't add-up to to £230m a year!
Where's that number coming from?
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
YouSir
Retired from Urban
Which number?
£850m, just curious about a source/breakdown.
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
They plan to take-over the Openreach network, with 32,000 employees costing £850m pa in wages, before you add in the costs of actually running the network, and associated costs like offices, vehicles, etc., etc.
Simple maths, that doesn't add-up to to £230m a year!
Not with the current network, no.
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Well yes but I'm not sure that's a bad thing though, their position on Brexit is indeed piss poor but they have some great, some good, some loopy and some bad ideas about other stuff as well. Even though Brexit is easily the most important issue of the day it's not the only one and I would kind of hope that Labour might try and win the election by focussing on the other issues.
cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
It's the wage bill for the 32,000 people employed by Openreach, equal to about £26,500 per person, per year.
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
What?
They are planning to take-over the current Openreach network, with 32,000 employees and a promise of no job loses, expand it & make it free for everyone, wipe out the likes of Virgin & Cityfibre, taking on even more customers, yet reckon it'll cost 1/10th of the current costs - that's frankly fucking nuts.
* NB Openreach only operates & maintains the network, they also plan to take over other parts of BT, such as BT Retail, or whatever they call it this year, which brings even more costs.
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