Labour leadership

[treelover]

Just saw this on the Guardian feed

"Plus if Chuka does run for the mayoralty against Sadiq it will provide the press with endless Chuka/Khan headlines."

That's from up and coming Mark Wallace, see our Libertarians thread.

 

[SpookyFrank]

There's plenty of muck on Keir Starmer out there

 

[brogdale]

That's from up and coming Mark Wallace, see our Libertarians thread.

It's Chaka anyway...so how could such a headline be remotely funny?

 

[brogdale]

There's plenty of muck on Keir Starmer out there

But sources close to Murdoch are 'letting it be known' that they have absolutely nothing on Abbott. She's clear to go.

 

[treelover]

There's plenty of muck on Keir Starmer out there

Do expound.

 

[brogdale]

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

Why the ?

 

[rekil]

They're in the same party but don't have the same politics (at all).

 

[FridgeMagnet]

It's "activists", not MPs.

Yet.

"It went crazy last night on Facebook after we launched – 180 or so joined in a matter of hours"

OMG ABSOLUTELY INSANE

 

[brogdale]

Why the ?

Looks like a bit of hint?

 

[treelover]

There's the Ed Stone!

 

[SpookyFrank]

Do expound.

On his watch lots of activists were convicted unlawfully because undercover pigs were allowed to withhold key evidence. Starmer's inquiry found no grounds for disciplinary action against anyone involved in the stitch-up.

e2a: Although I guess being in charge of a corrupt organisation doesn't really count as 'dirt' these days. If he'd had a spliff at his cousin's wedding reception though, that would be a different matter altogether.

 

[Wilf]

This isn't just silly season stuff, it's flies on shit shaking their heads in disbelief:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1616165061959015/members/

"I have to say I had no idea that a men with such credentials was part of the Labour Party. I would join the Labour Party if he were leader. Now I see why he was put to stand against Natalie Bennet. Amazing, please run!
"

 

[treelover]

The Blairites are back. But if Labour falls to them, the party may as well give up

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/15/blairites-new-labour-aspiration

Owen's counsel of despair, wonder what he would do in the event of another Blairite Coup?

 

[billy_bob]

Benefit scroungers! Get the long-range rifle out, chaps!

 

[Idris2002]

Owen's counsel of despair, wonder what he would do in the event of another Blairite Coup?

Vote labour without illusions. As you know fine well.

 

[laptop]

my money is on vast quantities of drugs taken in ibiza

Was he one of the naked dancers on the M41?

 

[ska invita]

I suppose it depends what this scandal is (and which paper it appears in), but I doubt that this is the establishment playing at being gatekeeper - Umunna was probably intended to be the establishment candidate.

yeah lets wait and see - the story could come from a labour candidate competitor, from a worried tory source, but it could just as easily have come from a spooks file ~ whatever it is, im just saying that is more interesting than the story itself

 

[brogdale]

yeah lets wait and see - the story could come from a labour candidate competitor, from a worried tory source, but it could just as easily have come from a spooks file ~ whatever it is, im just saying that is more interesting than the story itself

It would be, but probably the bit we're least likely to find out about.

 

[ska invita]

It would be, but probably the bit we're least likely to find out about.

depends on the story though ~ sometimes there's a clear source to them ~ especially so in kiss and tells

 

[brogdale]

depends on the story though ~ sometimes there's a clear source to them ~ especially so in kiss and tells

maybe...but this already has a very murky feel to it...just a hunch, mind.

 

[ska invita]

maybe...but this already has a very murky feel to it...just a hunch, mind.

agreed
dirty

 

[billy_bob]

This leaves the as-yet undeclared T. Hunt as the odds-on "Him? He's in the Labour Party??" candidate.

 

[Maurice Picarda]

yeah lets wait and see - the story could come from a labour candidate competitor, from a worried tory source, but it could just as easily have come from a spooks file ~ whatever it is, im just saying that is more interesting than the story itself

Thing is, if there was a Tory agenda at work this would have happened pre-election. It can only be internecine.

 

[brogdale]

"Break clause" leader; that's a new one on me. Sounds a bit like 'caretaker' really? Seems to have quite a few pitfalls, and only really one advantage. What a pickle.

...an idea is rapidly gaining ground in the party of having a “break clause” in 2017 or 2018, after the EU Referendum. All it would take right, now, according to a senior member of the Shadow Cabinet, is for one of the leadership contenders to offer right now, that if he or she is elected, to put themselves up for a genuine re-election in two or three years time – a review moment, an opportunity for the party to renew their contract as it were, or to seek an alternative.

Hmmm

 

[William of Walworth]

Andy Burnham.

Sounds slightly Northern, appears not too Metropolitan Elite-like, sometimes even sounds a bit normal humanoidish!

Plus will sound massively boring and even more bland as a leadership candidate.

Got to be a win win Shirley?

 

[William of Walworth]

Oh yes and as for his policies ...

 

[Sirena]

"Break clause" leader; that's a new one on me. Sounds a bit like 'caretaker' really? Seems to have quite a few pitfalls, and only really one advantage. What a pickle.

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Hmmm

Maybe that's the reason Chuka Umunna withdrew his candidacy....

Who wants to be short-term stand-in?

 

[weepiper]

You can have Jim Murphy if you like, we don't need him anymore

 

[RedDragon]

Ben Bradshaw announces he's standing for deputy; like annoncing you'er prepared to come second in an egg and spoon race.