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Chuka Umunna 7/4

Andy Burnham 11/4

Yvette Cooper 6

Liz Kendall 6

Tristram Hunt 12


Are they all New Labour?
 
Oddschecker

Chuka Umunna 7/4

Andy Burnham 11/4

Yvette Cooper 6

Liz Kendall 6

Tristram Hunt 12


Are they all New Labour?
not exactly. Only Umunna & Kendall are whole heartedly. The others are more Post-New-Labour

e2a: Post-New-Labour_New-Labour, I should say
 
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Amen.
Chuka Umunna is the last thing Labour needs – a pro-austerity MP who calls people 'trash'

He’s been touted as the “British Obama”, (although it’s allegedly a tagline that came from his own office) but in reality, he’s the last thing Labour needs. Situated to the right of Ed Miliband, Umunna – who describes himself as “Blue Labour” – is seen by Blairites as the man to bring back all the Tory voters who didn’t trust Labour this time round. However, this genius plan of simply becoming more like the Tories just won’t work, as there’s already a party that does this expertly: the Tories.

Instead of trying to engage with the voters Labour is meant to represent, Umunna says he wants to be “on the side of those who are doing well". Seeing as the richest are probably only going to get richer over the next five years, it’s clear who he means. It’s who Blairites call the “aspirational voter”. But what about those who aspire to live in a much fairer society?

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...s=10153326146349190&fb_action_types=og.shares
 
Oddschecker

Chuka Umunna 7/4

Andy Burnham 11/4

Yvette Cooper 6

Liz Kendall 6

Tristram Hunt 12


Are they all New Labour?
What a sad state of affairs when that lot are the best Labour can come up with. There's a reason why I've stayed the fuck away from the news and politics in the past week (with the exception of a few things such as the vermin's planned devastation to our civil liberties lead by Theresa May)

Tories with red rosettes. How are the working classes supposed to get behind these? How will all those who voted Ukip be turned back by the likes of Umunna? Maybe it's time to move away from counting on Labour to defend those effected by our gov't
 
Didn't we have all this with Milipede? And indeed Brown before him. It's incredibly boring.

e2a: I just thought, what if Cooper gets the leadership and Ed Balls has to play arm candy and keep his gob shut? And he thought he was gonna be chancellor. That would be funny.
The Leader of the Opposition's husband looked resplendent in a dark suit and red tie.
 
A sub plot to all this is how far do Labour have to before they alienate the handful of deluded fools who think there's a left future for the party. Umunna wants to continue the attack on the working class (in practice, they all would, but he makes a virtue of it). Do you want to be part of that? Haven't got a clue if he's going to win, but do you really want to be hanging on till 2020, hoping some Umunna + 4/5 Libdems + Caroline Lucas thing is going to improve things?
 
Burnham may be the only one who could keep the show on the road - it might not implode under Cooper/Umunna/Kendall but it would start to lose across the north, as well as Scotland, and lose out in the south/east to UKIP. Tristram Hunt would trigger this in spades.

I'm feeling a bit ambivalent - Burnham would limit the right wing drift but not reverse it. Maybe it needs a right wing leader to force a section of the unions to split, and I'd certainly be out with them.
 
I have literally no idea what any of those numbers mean.

Betting odds. 7/4 means bet £4 and get £7 (plus your £4 stake) back. They're just fractions. Turn them into decimal numbers and the lowest number is the most likely.

Umunna at 7/4 = 1.75
Burnham at 11/4 = 2.75

He left "/1" off the end of the others

Cooper at 6/1 = 6
and so on

The bookies think Chuka will win.


EDIT: painfully corrected by butchers there!
 
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Betting odds. 7/4 means bet £7 and get £4 (plus your £7 stake) back. They're just fractions. Turn them into decimal numbers and the lowest number is the most likely.

Umunna at 7/4 = 1.75
Burnham at 11/4 = 2.75

He left "/1" off the end of the others

Cooper at 6/1 = 6
and so on

The bookies think Chuka will win.
Other way round, 4 quid stake gets you 7 back (plus stake).
 
I don't see Burnham as a PM tbh. Chief Secretary to the Treasury under Brown, and never had a proper job like Milliband.
 
Tristrum Hunt would get mauled at PMQs and on serious head to head interviews, he's really weak like Ed Miliband. Burnham too, but slightly less so.

Umunna and Cooper are the only ones I could see. And at the moment I see Umunna being a stronger contender with Cooper not far behind but would also be a decent Shadow Chancellor. Burnham for Health Sec/Home Sec and Hunt as Education or Shadow Foreign sec if I had to choose. You could slot them anywhere though TBH.
 
McCluskey says on newsnight that he'll be opposing any attempts to disaffiliate from labour in Unite julys conference
 
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