Labour leadership

[ViolentPanda]

No he blatantly won't

That's exactly what I said to Greebo.
She asked why.
I said "because he's black".
I could have said "because he only has 5 years of experience of parliamentary politics", but I reckon any final analysis of how his vote stacks up will show institutional racism was in the mix.

 

[ViolentPanda]

That's blates in St Reatham

Only in the south of St Reatham. Those of us in the north of the constituency totes don't say blates.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Umunna's the bookies favourite. Not surprisingly. And he'll get it, 6-4 imo. Burnham could just beat him, but will more likely be passed over as far too Edlike, and even Edlite.

You don't reckon the dead hand of racism will swat him? I mean, I'm aware that Umunna is superficially more appealing to the right-wing media than Miliband E. ever was, but institutional racism in the labour Party isn't exactly extinct, even if it's nowhere near as prevalent as 30, 40 or 50 years ago.

 

[laptop]

Edlite.

A vol-au-vent?


(I've forgotten. What is the French for vol-au-vent?)

 

[laptop]

You don't reckon the dead hand of racism will swat him? I mean, I'm aware that Umunna is superficially more appealing to the right-wing media than Miliband E. ever was, but institutional racism in the labour Party isn't exactly extinct, even if it's nowhere near as prevalent as 30, 40 or 50 years ago.

Here you accidentally reproduce the kind of thinking that led to Milliband E being selected.

You don't need an intellectually-sound leader with a fine eye for the pithy amendment in Committee, you wallies.

You need a visually-appealing Gonk who looks credible in a tank and makes the halfwits who actually decide elections while sucking on the pencil in the booth feel warm, safe, fathered and wealthy.

And who doesn't frighten those of the halfwits who are scared of skin colour not their own.

And, being Labour, you need an intellectually-sound committee with its hand firmly up the Gonk's bottom.

 

[brogdale]

A vol-au-vent?


(I've forgotten. What is the French for vol-au-vent?)

I don't know that one, but I did learn from "Phoneshop" that Cava is french for Champagne.

 

[brogdale]

Here you accidentally reproduce the kind of thinking that led to Milliband E being selected.

You don't need an intellectually-sound leader with a fine eye for the pithy amendment in Committee, you wallies.

You need a visually-appealing Gonk who looks credible in a tank and makes the halfwits who actually decide elections while sucking on the pencil in the booth feel warm, safe, fathered and wealthy.

And, being Labour, you need an intellectually-sound committee with its hand firmly up the Gonk's bottom.

..and let's not overlook the scope for shaming the electorate that such a choice affords. "Not voting Labour? Yer racist"

 

[belboid]

You don't reckon the dead hand of racism will swat him? I mean, I'm aware that Umunna is superficially more appealing to the right-wing media than Miliband E. ever was, but institutional racism in the labour Party isn't exactly extinct, even if it's nowhere near as prevalent as 30, 40 or 50 years ago.

it's alive and kicking indeed, but it's mainly muslims they have a problem with.

And Cameron had only been an MP for four years when he became leader, so that's no issue.

 

[belboid]

(I've forgotten. What is the French for vol-au-vent?)

pelucheux Anglais ordures

 

[ViolentPanda]

it's alive and kicking indeed, but it's mainly muslims they have a problem with.

And Cameron had only been an MP for four years when he became leader, so that's no issue.

Yeah, but he (hamface) had been part of the milieu since the early '90s. I'm not sure Chuck has put in as much time ascending "the greasy pole", or glad-handing the right people (although Mandelson's imprimatur will help there).

 

[belboid]

Yeah, but he (hamface) had been part of the milieu since the early '90s. I'm not sure Chuck has put in as much time ascending "the greasy pole", or glad-handing the right people (although Mandelson's imprimatur will help there).

longstanding and prominent Compass member.

None of which matters tho, the only thing that does in his current electorates eyes, is is he electable?

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

longstanding and prominent Compass member.

None of which matters tho, the only thing that does in his current electorates eyes, is is he electable?

Progress not Compass

 

[belboid]

Progress not Compass

maybe both, he is (or was) on Compass' management committee

 

[SaskiaJayne]

If they don't make Chuka leader they don't deserve to win in 2020. He is so fuckin perfect, he can talk the talk & he is sharp as a tack. The only thing he has to watch is that he don't come over as too slick. Chuka as leader has cheered me right up, onward to victory in 2020, we are almost there.

 

[belboid]

Jon Trickett and Ian Lavery set to be the 'left' candidates - http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/labour-left-seek-run-candidate-leadership-election

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

Jon Trickett and Ian Lavery set to be the 'left' candidates - http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2015/05/labour-left-seek-run-candidate-leadership-election

I think Lavery would attract the wrong sort of attention, don't think he will go for it

 

[brogdale]

Christ...

It has been agreed that the result should not be announced at the party’s annual conference starting on 27 or 28 September but at a special conference a fortnight before or after.

Could be October, then. FFS

 

[shifting gears]

If they don't make Chuka leader they don't deserve to win in 2020. He is so fuckin perfect, he can talk the talk & he is sharp as a tack. The only thing he has to watch is that he don't come over as too slick. Chuka as leader has cheered me right up, onward to victory in 2020, we are almost there.

"I'll have whatever she's having"

 

[Belushi]

Christ...


Could be October, then. FFS

That's a ludicrously long time scale.

 

[weltweit]

That's a ludicrously long time scale.

I don't think so, they need time to properly cogitate

Marry in haste, repent at leisure.

 

[brogdale]

I don't think so, they need time to properly cogitate

Marry in haste, repent at leisure.

They presume to call themselves the opposition FFS, and they can't even sort out electing their own leader. Joke party.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

That's a ludicrously long time scale.

I think it's interesting, a good opportunity to have a proper discussion

 

[brogdale]

I think it's interesting, a good opportunity to have a proper discussion

It's nothing to do with discussion at all; it's purely to allow the unions to actually register their electorate. Not a great advert for the party's organisational ability tbh. And gives the vermin a free run over their first 100 days.

 

[rioted]

I think it's interesting, a good opportunity to have a proper discussion

The Labour Party has lost the ability to have a "proper" discussion.

 

[cesare]

I doubt they'd have opposed much anyway, will it make any real difference how long they take?

 

[butchersapron]

The Labour Party has lost the ability to have a "proper" discussion.

When did they lost that ability?

 

[laptop]

When did they lost that ability?

Not sure exactly when, but I think it's down the back of Ramsay MacDonald's sofa.

 

[butchersapron]

Not sure exactly when, but I think it's down the back of Ramsay MacDonald's sofa.

But your mans argument is they never had it - isn't it rioted? And so he can cast out witches who think diff.

 

[Spanky Longhorn]

The Labour Party has lost the ability to have a "proper" discussion.

No it hasn't - since Blair went it's had hundreds of proper discussions on a range of issues, you may not like what they were discussing and how they were discussing it, but they've had more wide ranging series than many on the far-left for example.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

"I'll have whatever she's having"

Yes, I'm definitely a fan.