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my vote counts still so far. a search of this website would indicate pretty clearly that i have unthinkingly supported labour for my whole life tho, despite the slings and arrows of anarchists and the like.
 
Yep even I wasnt so cynical as to believe the £3 thing was little more than a scam to get people to pay money to the party (i take it nobodys had their £3 given back?) Seems i was wrong though. I laugh but this is a total shambles :facepalm:
 
I wonder whether they're stopping enough people voting so that there's a legal challenge and the election has to be scrapped :hmm:

I think that's a reasonable suspicion, but surely they'll have to choose a leader at some point, and presumably by the current procedures. Corbyn has already been nominated, so it's difficult to see how they can exclude him, though that doesn't mean they won't try.
 
I think that's a reasonable suspicion, but surely they'll have to choose a leader at some point, and presumably by the current procedures. Corbyn has already been nominated, so it's difficult to see how they can exclude him, though that doesn't mean they won't try.

And I think they're on very dodgy ground stopping people from voting. Isn't the only question someone has to answer "Do you agree with the aims of the Labour Party?" and surely only needs the answer "Well if Corbyn is elected as leader yes, because I think he believes in them too". They'd have to come up with something that contradicts this.
 
I was allowed to vote, probably because i haven't been that politically active over the last few years.

To be honest, I don't see a problem with the Labour Party refusing membership to people like Mark Steel and Ken Loach, who, after all, were until very recently virulently anti-Labour.
I've never heard Loach or Steel voice anti-Labour sentiments.
What I have heard them voice is complaints about the ideology of the MPs and councillors who supposedly represent Labour, and the shift rightward such ideologies have manifested in those representatives.
 
I've still not received my ballot paper, by the way. They must be investigating me furiously.

Nor me...:(

Me neither - maybe we should bring some sort of legal challenge.

Can anyone suggest a lawyer who might be prepared to do a bit of pro bono work, ideally one with a working knowledge of the electoral system?
It's by email you know.... at least mine was.

The £3ers (and the union votes, iirc) are all by email, it's only members who have the choice of a paper ballot or doing it online.
I had my email the other day but my son's yet to receive his ballot paper. It says somewhere on the LP website that the closer an application was to the cut off date, the later the papers/emails would be received but it also suggests calling them if you've had nothing by the 24th (although somewhere else it says they'll still be arriving into September).

:hmm:
 
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the one thing that would finally stop me voting labour is if corbyn somehow gets blocked from being leader despite obviously being chosen by popular support.

What was it Blair said recently? "I'd rather the LP lost the election than were elected on a left manifesto" or words to that effect :thumbs:
 
The £3ers (and the union votes, iirc) are all by email, it's only members who have the choice of a paper ballot or doing it online.
I had my email the other day but my son's yet to receive his ballot paper. It says somewhere on the LP website that the closer a membership application was to the cut off date, the later the papers would be received but it also suggests calling them if you've had nothing by the 24th (although somewhere else it says they'll still be arriving into September).

:hmm:

I registered through my union fairly close to the cut off date, so I won't take the fact I haven't heard anything yet as significant.

Maybe I'll get my rejection E-mail on Monday
 
I registered through my union fairly close to the cut off date, so I won't take the fact I haven't heard anything yet as significant.

Maybe I'll get my rejection E-mail on Monday

Have you joined then? Just confused because of some of your posts.
 
I've never heard Loach or Steel voice anti-Labour sentiments.
What I have heard them voice is complaints about the ideology of the MPs and councillors who supposedly represent Labour, and the shift rightward such ideologies have manifested in those representatives.

I think it's shitty what they are doing to thousands of Labour Party members and supporters, but Loach always was someone who viewed the Labour Party after the fashion of that old famous quote from Lenin. He really shouldn't be that surprised that he got the knock back.
 
Have you joined then? Just confused because of some of your posts.

I signed up for free through Unite. I haven't yet decided if I'm actually going to vote.

ETA I was kind of inspired by the news that Harman was going to get MPs to check out new subscribers in their constituencies - thought I'd find out if David Lammy had me on his shit list ;)
 
I signed up for free through Unite. I haven't yet decided if I'm actually going to vote.

ETA I was kind of inspired by the news that Harman was going to get MPs to check out new subscribers in their constituencies - thought I'd find out if David Lammy had me on his shit list ;)
If you decide not to vote then you should vote corbyn to take the place of one of the people whose vote has been blocked.
 
I've never heard Loach or Steel voice anti-Labour sentiments.
What I have heard them voice is complaints about the ideology of the MPs and councillors who supposedly represent Labour, and the shift rightward such ideologies have manifested in those representatives.
That's the thing, isn't it. Who is getting to decide what Labour aims and values are, and which members do or do not subscribe to them? There's a quite clear ideological split in the party, so to talk of aims and values is to talk of the very things that are being debated and voted on!
 
That's the thing, isn't it. Who is getting to decide what Labour aims and values are, and which members do or do not subscribe to them? There's a quite clear ideological split in the party, so to talk of aims and values is to talk of the very things that are being debated and voted on!
it is a perfect catch 22.
 
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