Labour leadership

[emanymton]

Yes to both. There are already existing members for years with spotless records in terms of Labour loyalty who have been rejected. Funny as fuck.



I've often found these types of people are quick to identify as socialists. I'm sure I've heard Hunt talk about his 'socialist principles' on Question Time or somewhere else on the BBC. I don't think it's just to throw off the scent incidentally, they really believe it even as they rail against the old-fashioned left.

I don't understand, how can existing members be rejected?

 

[laptop]

I don't understand, how can existing members be rejected?

I blame the parents.
















Calling their child Lev Davidovich Bronshtein was never going to work out well in Macclesfield.

 

[Plumdaff]

The cull does seem quite geographical. Certain South London CLPs seem to be reporting anyone who's sent an anti cuts tweet, even if they are returning LP members and trade unionists who've never been near another party. Other areas are less vengeful.

Saying that, no ballot for me as yet. They must be furiously investigating my terrible puns on Twitter for anti Kendall sentiment.

 

[chilango]

Btw, is the G/P collapsing with this move to labour?

No.

 

[Santino]

I think that's a reasonable suspicion, but surely they'll have to choose a leader at some point, and presumably by the current procedures. Corbyn has already been nominated, so it's difficult to see how they can exclude him, though that doesn't mean they won't try.

If they started the whole process again then the MPs might not nominate Corbyn to be on the ballot.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Yep even I wasnt so cynical as to believe the £3 thing was little more than a scam to get people to pay money to the party (i take it nobodys had their £3 given back?) Seems i was wrong though. I laugh but this is a total shambles

Surely it's a handy way of getting an up to date list of commies, islamists and other troublemakers to hand over to gchq?

 

[gosub]

I don't understand, how can existing members be rejected?

war crimes

 

[andysays]

If they started the whole process again then the MPs might not nominate Corbyn to be on the ballot.

I realise that, but there's no (procedural) reason to start the whole process again, it's the voting part of the process which is (supposedly) problematic, not the original nominations. They may try to begin the whole thing again, but if so they will merely reveal themselves all the more clearly as fixing the process to prevent what they see as an unacceptable result.

However unelectable Corbyn might be, I reckon that sort of blatant stitch up would fuck them even further electorally than him winning, although maybe that would be a good thing for the rest of us.

 

[Wilf]

Comrades, great news! My partner has passed the Compliance Team's Ideological Test (some intern having a quick look on facebook).

Problem is, she did tell me she thought tony blair was a cunt. Should I grass her up and become a Star?

 

[Bakunin]

Comrades, great news! My partner has passed the Compliance Team's Ideological Test (some intern having a quick look on facebook).

Problem is, she did tell me she thought tony blair was a cunt. Should I grass her up and become a Star?

It seems that, while potential Corbyn supporters are purged, cats still get a ballot:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/cats-always-need-better-vetting-procedures#.ueb0kyxLzj

Teh kittehs are becoming politicised. Watch yourselves, mere humans.

 

[Wilf]

It seems that, while potential Corbyn supporters are purged, cats still get a ballot:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/cats-always-need-better-vetting-procedures#.ueb0kyxLzj

Teh kittehs are becoming politicised. Watch yourselves, mere humans.

That's making a mockery of what is an otherwise sensible and well conducted process.

 

[Bakunin]

That's making a mockery of what is an otherwise sensible and well conducted process.

Indeed. What possible grounds could anyone have for poking fun at Labour's handling of the leadership election?

 

[brogdale]

I've never heard Loach or Steel voice anti-Labour sentiments.
What I have heard them voice is complaints about the ideology of the MPs and councillors who supposedly represent Labour, and the shift rightward such ideologies have manifested in those representatives.

True, but they both, (along with Hardy), endorsed Lucas in Pavilion...so that makes it too easy for the PLP to ban them...they've supported a candidate standing against the party candidate.

 

[killer b]

I think that, were I planning on voting in the leadership election, I'd shut the fuck up about it on fb and check what groups I'm a member of.

 

[agricola]

True, but they both, (along with Hardy), endorsed Lucas in Pavilion...so that makes it too easy for the PLP to ban them...they've supported a candidate standing against the party candidate.

As opposed to publicly threatening to set up / join an internal resistance movement against the elected leader, which apparently is perfectly fine.

 

[brogdale]

As opposed to publicly threatening to set up / join an internal resistance movement against the elected leader, which apparently is perfectly fine.

Yeah, I'm not attempting to justify their actions or anything...just saying that some of these slebs made it easy for the party to do what they did.

 

[imposs1904]

The cull does seem quite geographical. Certain South London CLPs seem to be reporting anyone who's sent an anti cuts tweet, even if they are returning LP members and trade unionists who've never been near another party. Other areas are less vengeful.

Saying that, no ballot for me as yet. They must be furiously investigating my terrible puns on Twitter for anti Kendall sentiment.

That kind of makes sense because of the few CLPs that actually backed Kendall, the majority were in London.

 

[19sixtysix]

I seemed to have passed the test. Luckily I think the bliarites haven't found my facebook comments about bliar cause I always spell his name a way they'd never type

I have voted

 

[brogdale]

I seemed to have passed the test. Luckily I think the bliarites haven't found my facebook comments about bliar cause I always spell his name a way they'd never type

I have voted

Are we really suggesting that the LP has the resources to actually attempt to seek such evidence as social media stuff for more than a few individuals?

 

[treelover]

Extraordinary to think that people like Field, Kendall, Danczuk and Hunt represent a party with those words on their membership card.

and Flint,

 

[Indeliblelink]

I hope there will be some interesting Freedom Of Information requests to Labour HQ

 

[brogdale]

I hope there will be some interesting Freedom Of Information requests to Labour HQ

I don't think political parties are regarded as public sector organisations for the purpose of FoI requests...but I'm no expert.

 

[brogdale]

and Flint,

we could go on and on.

 

[zora]

Glad I read on here that the ballot comes by email, and it has indeed arrived in my spam folder! I could have deleted it all too easily amongst the bazillion spam messages I've received since signing up.

I was saying to oryx last night that I'm surprised that noone has had a hissy fit about it yet that OMG EUROPEANS with no vote in the general election are allowed to takd part in this fine democratic exercise, but we decided it's probably because it's a bit of a niche thing.

 

[laptop]

Are we really suggesting that the LP has the resources to actually attempt to seek such evidence as social media stuff for more than a few individuals?

600,000 registered, yes?

That's 920 per Constituency Labour Party. If there are 3 obsessives on the constituency committee, they have on average 300 each. 600 in some constituencies, say.

Scan the list. Look at the names that arouse their suspicions. Sort-of doable.

 

[killer b]

Are we really suggesting that the LP has the resources to actually attempt to seek such evidence as social media stuff for more than a few individuals?

they don't need the resources, only the money - isn't this exactly the kind of thing that facebook sells to their clients?

It's a data protection subject access request that people should be submitting to the LP if they want to find the reason for their refusal rather than a FoI request btw.

 

[killer b]

(the suggestion to be careful on social media is as much to do with being grassed than any direct trawling of accounts by the party - either could result in being booted.)

 

[Belushi]

Telegraph has raised the bar with anti-Corbyn hysteria..

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...urn-Britain-into-Zimbabwe.html?fb_ref=Default

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Fuckin hell, that's proper cringe worthy guff!!

 

[Favelado]

Are there any Blairites who might have voted Tory in 2015 who are now registering for the election and planning on voting for Kendall? Surely scrutiny needs to be applied across the board.