nino_savatte
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Actually, Labour's been shit for longer. The Wilson years weren't entirely great.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Important question.
Corbynmania might be properly understood as evidence that growing numbers of people have, or are beginning to, rumble that social democracy designed to negotiate with capital the 'social contract' of the welfare state no longer has any meaning or purpose.
nino_savatte
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That isn't quite the case though, is it? The constitution is a collection of statutes outlining the roles and functions of the monarchy and the government. To claim it's "unwritten" is to suggest that it exists entirely in the imagination.
I can do pedantry too.
nino_savatte
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This is the good thing about 'Corbynmania' though: it has opened up a field of strategic possibilities (to borrow from Bourdieu). Social democracy is a massive confidence trick, though.
In other words - a simple majority = a popular majority, unless the voting constitution specifies otherwise...
I know this might be a bit tricky for someone a bit too simple but are you aware of the idea of a simple majority?
OT are those leatherette elbow patches for tweed jackets still available?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
In popular elections a majority of the ballots cast, this is really very basic stuff, results usually in a majority.
Sometimes, although rarely in a field with more than more two candidates, you might get an absolute majority - i.e. 50% + - but usually, in almost every election in the UK, you get someone who has a simple majority, otherwise commonly known as a popular majority.
Driving the point home - this means that they have received more ballots from those who have voted than anyone else in the field - i.e. you are the most popular therefore you have a popular majority.
The Tories have a popular majority.
You may not like it, I certainly don't like it but that is the reality.
If Labour ignores that, then they are fools.
Sometimes, although rarely in a field with more than more two candidates, you might get an absolute majority - i.e. 50% + - but usually, in almost every election in the UK, you get someone who has a simple majority, otherwise commonly known as a popular majority.
Driving the point home - this means that they have received more ballots from those who have voted than anyone else in the field - i.e. you are the most popular therefore you have a popular majority.
The Tories have a popular majority.
You may not like it, I certainly don't like it but that is the reality.
If Labour ignores that, then they are fools.
bendeus
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I rarely comment in P&P threads but you are aware that you're getting one hell of a kicking, aren't you? It reminds me of the bit in Raging Bull where De Niro's cumbersome slugger just keeps on walking forward onto the rapier jabs and uppercuts of Sugar Ray Robinson. It's all he can do even though his face is a mess. Just sayin'
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I rarely comment in P&P threads but you are aware that you're getting one hell of a kicking, aren't you? It reminds me of the bit in Raging Bull where De Nero's cumbersome slugger just keeps on walking forward onto the rapier jabs and uppercut of Sugar Ray Robinson. It's all he can do even though his face is a mess. Just sayin'
This is "a hell of a kicking"!
You must lead a very sheltered and dull life old man.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The tories won the largest number of votes (a simple majority of the votes cast) in the 2015 GE, but that does not support your assertion that "the country wants a tory government".
You can say that 11,334,576 people voted Conservative which was 36.9% of the turnout on the day, 24.39% of the registered electorate or about 1 in 5 adults in the UK. But none of that represents a popular majority in any form other than relative.
bendeus
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It's fine. Probably just looks worse from this angle.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
about 1 in 4 adults
nino_savatte
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What does this mean? Are you trying to suggest the Tories have a mandate?
TheHoodedClaw
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Put me out of my 4 minutes of misery - what is that? I know I've seen one before...
No - that is a simple majority and a popular majority.
The country was quorate, the vote happened and the result stands - the popular vote went with the Tories.
To pretend otherwise is quite frankly ridiculous.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I don't think so.
It's not right to assume that the registered electorate = the 'adult', age-eligible potential electorate.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if they'd turned blair into paté he'd be a pot o'blair
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
Rubbish. A popular majority is more than half of the votes cast.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
25% traditionally 1 in 4
nino_savatte
No pasaran!
I'd describe a majority of 12 seats as a "fragile" or "slender" majority.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
The only ridiculous pretence in evidence here is your laughable assertion that "the country want(ed) a tory government".
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I'm sorry, you have failed the exam.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Non-registered adults.
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