Pickman's model
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
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YouSir
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Seeing as he's been the most 'moderate' of the candidates towards Corbyn I wonder what Burnham is angling for when it's all over? He'll say pretty much whatever he thinks will make him popular, no one could call him a radical anything and he's about as inoffensive as you could get as far as public image goes. Just the sort of person to give a job to to prove party unity and all that stuff.
Or in the unlikely event it goes his way where will he put Corbyn to not drive away too many of the enthused masses while still making sure he has no chance to say, do or think anything that'll upset things?
Or in the unlikely event it goes his way where will he put Corbyn to not drive away too many of the enthused masses while still making sure he has no chance to say, do or think anything that'll upset things?
agricola
a genuine importer of owls
Not sure he is angling for anything; perhaps its just a case of him recognizing that wheeling out an ever more lurid and fantastical series of reasons why people should vote for Corbyn is not necessarily the best way of getting people to not vote for Corbyn.
weltweit
Well-Known Member
If Burnham was elected leader I don't think Labour would have a chance at the next election, Burnham is bland, devoid of conviction or policies and neither a leader nor a winner. I think Labour would have a better chance in 2020 with Corbyn, at least he seems to stand for something and can fill halls.
maomao
普費斯
British public school system. It imbues idiots with a sense of superiority so they can appear to be patronising even in a discussion the vast majority of which has gone straight over their heads. There were tons of the cunts in my class at uni. They spent every lesson asking 'is this in the exam?', scraped 2:1s and are all extremely rich now.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Nope. I expect due respect would be forthcoming for people who express misgivings about Corbyn without being quite so pompous and know-all.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
away from this discussion, this encapsulates so well a phenomena I've tried to put my finger on for a very long time. There are some people in my circles who went to fee paying schools. They tend to be left tilted or arty etc. so I'm comfortable asking them if they were at school with folk who are probably now pretty much rich/powerful elite types, and if they were utter planks/pricks at school. It's a discussion that tends to confirm a corelation.
It's one of the ironies of toryism that it is thus highly anti-meritocraic.
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All of Cooper Burnham and Kendalls are Labour-insiders associated with the Blair government to some degree (even Kendall who didn't become an MP until 2010 was a former political adviser to Harriet Harman parachuted into a safe seat) and it seems that if Labour picked either of those three the strategy would be to simply be to hope that come 2020 the electorate had enough of the Tories. They are all essentially bland professional politicians whose real talent is navigating the inner political landscape of the Labour party.
taffboy gwyrdd
Embrace the confusion!
Expect to hear from the GR's lawyers in due course.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Those rusty Austin Allegros won't fucking sell themselves goddamit
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I've heard 'the light went out' in several contexts but the most frequent is the description of how devestating the bubonic plague was on medieval europe. So presumably the snowy bearded lenin is the herald of a new plague.
These fucking dramatists. You've got a mild mannered old bloke from the labour left talking about stuff and all of a sudden its armagideon time
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
Armagideon? Is this some weird obscure Freudian slip?
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
there was actually some redemptive episodes for Gul tbf
Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
Liz Kendall's machine was fairly swift to react to those on twitter who commented yesterday
(and Oh mai - mine is one of three in the independent)
It does seem that the quotes that specifically mentioned "disabled people" or "normal people" are incorrect.
Actual words were
in 1997... “people thought were had a message that was, yes, for the weak and the vulnerable and for those who were suffering, but for ordinary people too.”
I'm not sure I like it much more. The implication being that in 2015 there wasn't a message for "ordinary people"
Still seems to be very much a "them and us" thing.
This seems a pretty good response.
(and Oh mai - mine is one of three in the independent)
It does seem that the quotes that specifically mentioned "disabled people" or "normal people" are incorrect.
Actual words were
in 1997... “people thought were had a message that was, yes, for the weak and the vulnerable and for those who were suffering, but for ordinary people too.”
I'm not sure I like it much more. The implication being that in 2015 there wasn't a message for "ordinary people"
Still seems to be very much a "them and us" thing.
This seems a pretty good response.
Casually Red
tomorrow belongs to me
He's on ignore now
gosub
~#
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...lar-to-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-must-step-aside.html you don't see the other candidates worrying about the leftish vote splitting 
magneze
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ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
People who are 1) attracted to Corbyn's policies, 2) convinced by the media/right-wing press/liberal fabian twats that he is unelectable, and 3) believe that some of those policies might creep into and influence a (for some reason more electorally successful) Burnham shadow-cabinet with Corbyn in it. In other words, practically no-one.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
your graphic points out the exact spot where several 90s era Ford Escorts are parked, next to half a dozen Subaru Imprezas. The shit blue ones with gold sprayed rims.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
magneze
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I told one of them to fuck off today. I'm sick of it. Felt a bit bad as it wasn't the fault of the person on the other end but it really has been fucking endless.You gave them your proper phone number?
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Once you're in there is no way out bar clawing away your retinas with your bare hands.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I've found not being a labour voter helps with this vexatious issue. Now I only have to deal with car insurance emails and spam from people who want to make my nob bigger. It's fine as it is for gods sake!
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