Labour leadership
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redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
That article does have one bit of sense in it
I still don't see Corbyn winning but like with the Scottish Ref and the anti-SNP stuff all the liberal squealing/insults have done is help Corbyn.
Reason why it's illegal to teach politics in schools, or economics in any meaningful way.
The national accounts are not a fucking piggy-bank
ItWillNeverWork
Messy Crimbobs, fellow humans.
Let's see what happens to public opinion when the next round of cuts plunges us back into recession.
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Reason why it's illegal to teach politics in schools, or economics in any meaningful way.
The national accounts are not a fucking piggy-bank
It's just become a reflexive 'truth' repeated ad nauseam without any explanation or thought. In some ways that makes it even harder to challenge because when people say it, and you challenge them on it, it's probably the first time that they have thought about it in any depth or even considered that it might not be the whole truth which immediately makes anyone defensive and inclined to be offended.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Agree with sentiment, but not true.Reason why it's illegal to teach politics in schools, or economics in any meaningful way.
The national accounts are not a fucking piggy-bank
I know very few state school kids ever get the opportunity to study it...but the Edexcel Govt & Politics A2 unit 3/4 topic B does cover ideologies..even Anarchism!
The Guardian is comedy gold at the moment. Hours of fun reading articles with my senile Tory dad.
I spice it up and tell him Arthur Scargill is his deputy and Vladislav Surkov will be his PR man.
free spirit
more tea vicar?
yep, and even if it were there's more than one way to reduce the deficit..... economic growth, increased tax receipts and lower numbers reliant on benefits being a far more credible deficit reduction plan than counter cyclical public spending cuts.Reason why it's illegal to teach politics in schools, or economics in any meaningful way.
The national accounts are not a fucking piggy-bank
No-one else has really tried tbf. Or been given the opportunity to try.
They have their empty claims: I'll have mine
Worse: following the real answer involves a certain amount of numeracy; and even some abstract thought.
Not happening
Do we know who commissioned the research? Cruddas? Or someone "for" him?
Kaka Tim
Half Arsed and Slapdash till I Die
It was done by Cruddas.
And the question “We must live within our means, so cutting the deficit is the top priority.”' is blatantly loaded. Its a "push poll" - designed to give a particular response. Worthless other than for propaganda purposes.
Corbyn should do a poll asking people "do you think the economy should be run for the benefit of the people rather than the bankers" and use the inevitable positive response to say that 72% of the public support his policy.
And the question “We must live within our means, so cutting the deficit is the top priority.”' is blatantly loaded. Its a "push poll" - designed to give a particular response. Worthless other than for propaganda purposes.
Corbyn should do a poll asking people "do you think the economy should be run for the benefit of the people rather than the bankers" and use the inevitable positive response to say that 72% of the public support his policy.
Of course they agree with it at the moment. Who has been giving an alternative message with any kind of consistency or clarity?
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Its not the first votes its the second votes that's going to win this . I backed Cooper but Burnham has already got some second preference from unions and will continue to do some lefty talking to get some more.
True enough. And so ambiguous as to be meaningless. We should live within our means, but what are those means and who gets to define them? The second part begs the question too. It doesn't follow from the first part at all (because what are our means?) and hence should not have a "so".
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
You should live within your means and cutting your deficit should be your top priority. Profligate borrowing of this sort can only lead to disaster. Will that do?
youngian
Well-Known Member
Send Corbyn off to Dignitas says Andy Burnham
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/andy-burnham-says-mps-should-6194623
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/andy-burnham-says-mps-should-6194623
ManchesterBeth
Well-Known Member
Hysterical anarcho-trot?
free spirit
more tea vicar?
Corbyn's been at between 5-10 times the google trends ranking of any of the other candidates for the last 2 weeks solidly now, and higher than all other candidates every day since 1st July.
That's a fair head of steam he's building up, and the other 3s tactics are probably helping drive a lot of that search traffic his way by making him the main story of this contest.
That's a fair head of steam he's building up, and the other 3s tactics are probably helping drive a lot of that search traffic his way by making him the main story of this contest.
frogwoman
No amount of cajolery...
Time for a sweepstake on the name of the new party
Er... The New Party
A party of Action!
spartacus mills
let's wee on each other
Time for a sweepstake on the name of the new party
Er... The New Party
The George Osborne Fanclub?
TopCat
Putin fanboy
My head hurts. Just woke up and thought why is my debit card out of my wallet? Oh fuck.
emanymton
A cat politely sat on the flaming gardener.
I'd like to propose an alternative poll question.
We should cut tax for the wealthiest while cuttung benefits for the poorest
Agree or disagree.
teqniq
DisMembered
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I wish he'd pledged to do this.
I'm calling for them to be re-nationalised.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
You know..photographed grinning with a written pledge to do this...that sort of thing.
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