Labour & Anti-Semitism.

[19force8]

Your argument appears to to be that you're not anti-semitic and the last time time you checked this was still true and because you know the eternal never changing diff between the anti-zionism and ant-semitism that you are in the clear. Things have changed.

So many things I know. It's good to be reminded from time to time.

 

[butchersapron]

You'd be right if I'd ever made that argument, but since I haven't that's shit too.

It's pretty clear this is your response to this latest anti-corbyn report.

 

[19force8]

It's pretty clear this is your response to this latest anti-corbyn report.

If you say so it must be.

 

[butchersapron]

Weird how it works for the FLA closed group and this closed group.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Powerful speeches today, Corbyn absent.

 

[killer b]

He wasn't absent, he just didn't stay for the whole thing.

 

[sleaterkinney]

He wasn't absent, he just didn't stay for the whole thing.

That's ok then.

 

[Pickman's model]

He wasn't absent, he just didn't stay for the whole thing.

yeh he was absent for the bits when he wasn't there

 

[killer b]

That's ok then.

Not sure about that. He just wasn't absent, like you posted.

 

[Mr Moose]

yeh he was absent for the bits when he wasn't there

He might have been a bit absent when he was there. He’s getting on a bit and it’s not an issue that always seems to grab his attention.

 

[Pickman's model]

He might have been a bit absent when he was there. He’s getting on a bit and it’s not an issue that always seems to grab his attention.

yeh well when it's been talked about and talked about and talked about i suppose the novelty it initially had wears off

 

[Mr Moose]

yeh well when it's been talked about and talked about and talked about i suppose the novelty it initially had wears off

I’m not sure it had much initial novelty for him, that's the problem. Now he is playing catch up.

 

[Shechemite]

Is that what happened today? The BoD/JLC tried to ‘dictate to Corbyn that he can only talk to ‘mainstream’ Jewish groups’?

Or just more thick as pig shit ‘anti-Zionism’?

 

[killer b]

I forget the wording and can't find the letter right now, but pretty much. certainly that he must engage with mainstream groups when forming his response instead of taking his lead from leftwing antizionist jewish groups.

 

[not-bono-ever]

Everything under heaven is in utter chaos; the situation is excellent - as mao apparently said

 

[rekil]

'My centre is giving way, my right is retreating, my left is crawling with conspiraloons, situation excellent, I am attacking.'

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Street fighting man Len M wades into the row. Again, the undoubted and shameless, politicking of the Blairites is the focus and used to deflect away from the political degeneracy:

The Corbyn ultimatum

 

[Pickman's model]

Street fighting man Len M wades into the row. Again, the undoubted and shameless, politicking of the Blairites is the focus and used to deflect away from the political degeneracy:

The Corbyn ultimatum

The wreckers

 

[killer b]

Got to wonder what mclusky is trying to achieve with that. Comical that he talks of other people 'undermining' Corbyn while kicking his feet out from under him himself...

 

[bemused]

Got to wonder what mclusky is trying to achieve with that. Comical that he talks of other people 'undermining' Corbyn while kicking his feet out from under him himself...

He's also talking about mandatory reselection, Corbyn has been a dissenter of this party's leadership for years - it is part of his charm. Any move to remove MPs who don't agree with this leadership isn't going to look good, imagine what Len would have said if previous leaders had tried to deselect Corbyn?

 

[butchersapron]

He's also talking about mandatory reselection, Corbyn has been a dissenter of this party's leadership for years - it is part of his charm. Any move to remove MPs who don't agree with this leadership isn't going to look good, imagine what Len would have said if previous leaders had tried to deselect Corbyn?

It's the local party who deselect not the leadership.

And this has nothing to do with the thread.

 

[killer b]

Oh, I'm all for that.

 

[bemused]

And this has nothing to do with the thread.

I'm discussing an article quoted in this thread - it's part of this thread.

 

[Mr Moose]

Got to wonder what mclusky is trying to achieve with that. Comical that he talks of other people 'undermining' Corbyn while kicking his feet out from under him himself...

He is too close to Corbyn for it not to be seen as one of Corbyn’s own contradictory messages.

In many ways it’s a fine article, other than the total balls up he makes when he says of opposing anti-Semitism ‘I need no lectures from anyone else on the subject’. Leaving aside the daft machismo (how long ago Len?) that’s exactly the attitude that got us here. I’m not listening coz I’m so right on.

Imagine saying to Black people about racism as a white person ‘I need no lectures’.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

Imagine saying to Black people about racism as a white person ‘I need no lectures’.

Exactly. I was half expecting him to go with 'some of my best mates are Jewish'.

He takes the view, correctly, that far right anti semities need to be kicked off the streets. But on the left prescribes a programme of education and more cult of personality stuff around Corbyn. And in doing so exposes the, increasingly less submerged, political degeneration.

 

[The Flying Pig]

I think these whingeing Labour mp's should be asked their opinion on a two party state solution for Israel and Palestine, their thoughts on the war crimes committed by the apartheid Israeli government are they in the pay of the Israeli state or take free trips to Israel and finally ask their views on what is the capital of Israel? I am 100% certain their answers will tell us all their motive for deciding on attacking Corbyn.

 

[butchersapron]

NEE-NAAH_NEE-NAAH anarchists for labour police - weeks late.

The key question for labour in the coming period, is, of course, Palestine.

 

[butchersapron]

NEE-NAAH-NEE-NAAH anarchists for labour police - can you show us your papers - like right now.

 

[The Flying Pig]

Best just deselect these conspirators asap

 

[butchersapron]

Best just deselect these conspirators asap

What steps are you taking towards this end - as the second in command of the anarchist labour party police?