Labour & Anti-Semitism.

[Pickman's model]

They'll be saving them all up until just before the next set of elections.

yeh but in the great tradition of british television they'll all come out as repeats

 

[nino_savatte]

I was alerted to this Stephen Pollard smear job on Facebook.

The Left's hatred of Jews chills me to the bone
As a young boy, I used to think my grandma very strange. In her bedroom she kept a suitcase, packed and ready for use at a moment’s notice. “Just in case,” she’d tell me when I asked where it was that she was always waiting to go to. “You never know when they’ll turn on the Jews.”

Her house in Northwood was epitome of suburban comfort, and I couldn’t understand what on earth she meant. Until, that is, I learned some history – including the history of the Jews. Which is, in short, that pretty much everywhere, they have turned on the Jews.

The Left's hatred of Jews chills me to the bone

It's a mess of an article.

From my teens through my twenties and thirties, the fact that I am Jewish meant little to me beyond the Jonathan Miller sense of being Jew-ish. I adored beigels, matzoh balls, Seinfeld and Woody Allen more than your average gentile would think they deserved. And that was about it. If you’d asked me, I’d have told you that after the Holocaust, real, serious anti-Semitism – the sort where Jews were killed for being Jews, rather than the odd nasty comment – was a thing of the past, in civilised Europe, at least.

 

[two sheds]

I wonder how he feels about the Right's hatred of the Jews.

 

[Pickman's model]

I wonder how he feels about the Right's hatred of the Jews.

i think he's the sort who, on the basis of the word 'socialist' in 'national socialist german workers party', would say hitler was a leftie.

 

[Pickman's model]

I was alerted to this Stephen Pollard smear job on Facebook.


It's a mess of an article.

i would have thought 'the oldest hatred' isn't anti-semitism but misogyny.

 

[nino_savatte]

I wonder how he feels about the Right's hatred of the Jews.

I wonder where he was when the NF and British Movement were marching through our towns and cities? He's clearly suffering from a form of selective amnesia. Poisonous cunt that he is.

 

[Pickman's model]

I wonder where he was when the NF and British Movement were marching through our towns and cities?

oxford or cambridge no doubt: e2a: oxford.

 

[nino_savatte]

oxford or cambridge no doubt: e2a: oxford.

Yes, he strikes me as an Oxbridge-educated type: insulated from the realities of everyday life. I mean, he grew up in Northwood ffs.

 

[nino_savatte]

I found this in a Guardian article about Poland's Michal Kaminski, whose party the Tories were allied to in the Euro Parliament.

As the row has grown, the Conservatives managed – in what they believed to be a decisive counter-strike – to enlist the support of Stephen Pollard, editor of theJewish Chronicle, who leaped to Kaminski's defence, saying there was nothing to suggest the Polish MEP – now a strong supporter of Israel – had had antisemitic leanings. But it all just stoked the Kaminski war. Pollard claimed there was not "a shred of evidence" that Kaminski had demanded a Jewish apology for crimes against Poles as a condition for Polish contrition. The evidence had been in Nasza Polska since 2001.

Kaminski's views on Jewish massacre still causing problems for Cameron

How did this cunt become a journalist in the first place? He's all over the shop.

From the same article.

As the Tory conference closed last Thursday, news leaked out of another Kaminski bombshell. The Jewish Chronicle's political editor, Martin Bright, had conducted an interview with Kaminski in Manchester which appeared to blow much of the previous defence of him by the magazine's own editor, Pollard, out of the water. Kaminski denied to Bright having a neo-Nazi past or holding antisemitic views. But he made clear he had indeed opposed the apology issued by the Polish president in 2001, because it would be a one-side admission of guilt – something he had denied to this paper that he had ever said.

It's time someone did an exposé on Pollard.

 

[Pickman's model]

How did this cunt become a journalist in the first place? He's all over the shop.

you say that as though it should debar him: whereas it just shows he's well qualified for the role.

 

[nino_savatte]

you say that as though it should debar him: whereas it just shows he's well qualified for the role.

Rhetorical question.

 

[nino_savatte]

I've unearthed this from Liberal Conspiracy. It was posted in 2012 and concerns an early anti-Corbyn smear story. Of course, Pollard and his fellow editor, Martin Bright, were involved.
How the Jewish Chronicle is trying to smear Jeremy Corbyn MP | Liberal Conspiracy

 

[Pickman's model]

treelover going brave sir robin now your lies exposed i see

 

[nino_savatte]

Oh dear. Aaronovitch does his bit to keep the whole 'the Left is anti-Semitic' alive. David Hirsch, apparently some kind of professor, offers a series of logical fallacies, tropes and smears in defence of Israel. The programme includes contributions from Wee Owen and Kerry-anne (sic) Mendoza of *coughs* The Canary.
Anti-Semitism on the Left, The Briefing Room - BBC Radio 4

 

[nino_savatte]

Michael Dugher (who?) is quoted in this smear job for Labour List, which has recently blocked me for challenging the dodgy arguments of its Blairite supporters. It opens by telling us "The hard left has always “had a problem with anti-Semitism”.

In the first paragraph he claims

the “vast majority” of new Labour members are committed to fighting racism but warned the surge in new recruits over the last year had allowed in people with extreme views.
Michael Dugher: The hard left has always had a problem with anti-Semitism | LabourList

For Dugher, this is about trying to expel as many new members as possible on the flimsiest of evidence.

Poisonous cunt.

 

[nino_savatte]

The Oxford University Labour Club anti-semitism row was manufactured by a Blairite brat, who'd nominated a Lib Dem candidate in the local elections. This, according to the Electronic Intifada.

A student behind false claims of anti-Semitism at Oxford University will be expelled from the UK’s main opposition Labour Party, The Electronic Intifada can reveal.

David Klemperer was suspended from the party for nominating an opposing candidate for Oxford council in this month’s local elections.

Labour’s Compliance Unit wrote to Klemperer on Monday giving notice he would have 14 days to appeal before his membership is revoked.

In an email obtained by The Electronic Intifada, Klemperer was described by a top Labour manager as one of “two who instigated the anti-Semitism row” at Oxford University Labour Club.

The second named in the email is Alex Chalmers, the former Israel lobby intern whose resignation as club co-chair in February kicked off the whole scandal.

Chalmers had claimed that the club’s endorsement of a Palestine solidarity education week was anti-Semitic.

Public records show that both Klemperer and Chalmers nominated Liberal Democrat candidates as local councillors. The Notice of Poll document proving this was available to download from Oxford council’s website on Saturday, but has since been removed – a redacted extract from the document is appended below.
Instigator of anti-Semitism scam kicked out of Labour

Ooer...

 

[J Ed]

See you later alligator

 

[Greasy Boiler]

Judging by the media it seems Labour has solved its problem with anti-semtism... until the next election.

 

[Nigel]

The Oxford University Labour Club anti-semitism row was manufactured by a Blairite brat, who'd nominated a Lib Dem candidate in the local elections. This, according to the Electronic Intifada.


Ooer...

David Klemperer & Alex Chalmers; main proponents of Anti- Semitic Accusations suspended for nominating Lib-Dem candidate!

Instigator of anti-Semitism scam kicked out of Labour

 

[agricola]

For Dugher, this is about trying to expel as many new members as possible on the flimsiest of evidence.

Poisonous cunt.

I especially like this, from the end of that missive:

Dugher also said Labour’s national executive committee (NEC) must be allowed to carry out a “a proper and fair investigation”into Livingstone’s behaviour but added: “Given the condemnation of Mr Livingstone by the Chief Rabbi, the former Chief Rabbi, the Board of Deputies, the Holocaust Education Trust, the Jewish Labour Movement and just as importantly from ordinary Labour members and decent people up and down the country, in my view it is inconceivable that Livingstone not be kicked out of the Labour Party for good.

 

[nino_savatte]

I especially like this, from the end of that missive:

'Decent people' *klaxon*

 

[Pickman's model]

See you later alligator

in a while crocodile

 

[teqniq]

Jackie Walker's suspension has been lifted

 

[Pickman's model]

Jackie Walker's suspension has been lifted

Much more later=on the lash round 2100

 

[teqniq]

 

[nino_savatte]

Here's Tony Greenstein in The Weekly Worker giving both barrels to Labour's cowardice in the face of Zionist pressure.

The Labour Party seems to be in a parallel universe, whereby black is white and truth is false. The laws of logic no longer apply. How else can one describe a situation whereby those who support the world’s only apartheid state are the ones defining what is and what is not racism?

In recent weeks, Ken Livingstone has been suspended for mentioning the relationship of the Nazis to the Zionists, David Watson has been suspended for claiming that Zionism is racist and I have been suspended for, among other things, claiming that Zionism is a Jewish form of anti-Semitism.

The latter is a question of fact. Although Zionist supporters today claim to oppose anti-Semitism, no historian of Zionism can be unaware that both anti-Semites and Zionists shared the same prejudices against diaspora Jewry. As Jacques Doron notes, “It cannot be denied that the Jewish self-criticism so widespread among the German Zionist intelligentsia often seemed dangerously similar to the plaints of the German anti-Semites.”1

There is a universal consensus in the media, that extends fromThe Guardian to the Daily Mail, that anyone who criticises Zionism is anti-Semitic. The mere suggestion that Israel is anything other than the purest form of Athenian democracy is likely to result in Labour’s Inquisition bearing down on them, presided over by Tomás de Torquemada in the form of John Mann MP. Events, however, have a habit of defying even the most prosaic of ideologues.

In the past week alone Israel’s deputy chief of staff, general Yair Golan, has compared developments in Europe - particularly Germany in the 1930s - to Israel today.2 Yair’s speech at a ceremony remembering the holocaust led to a series of events, which culminated in the removal of Moshe Ya’alon as Israel’s defence minister. Ya’alon was no slouch when it came to killing Palestinians, but his replacement, Avigdor Lieberman, is the Israeli equivalent of Islamic State. Lieberman had previously called for the beheading of “disloyal” Israeli Arabs3 and the drowning of thousands of Palestinian prisoners in the Dead Sea.4
Right’s heresy hunt - Weekly Worker

 

[CNT36]

Solid summary here

Jeremy Corbyn hasn’t got an ‘antisemitism problem’. His opponents do.

Does anyone know if part 2 ever surfaced?

 

[Pickman's model]

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i'm waiting on your apologies for lying.

treelover, still waiting for your apology for telling porkies

 

[Pickman's model]

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i'm waiting on your apologies for lying.

treelover *taps watch*

 

[bimble]

treelover *taps watch*

Give it a rest will you? treelover just said he was taking a break from here and that I'd gone away because bullied off: he has taken a break & if I've reappeared after a couple of months that's not cos he's a liar its cos I'm a fool. Not that I felt bullied by you in particular, you're not a bully, I think of you more like a sort of small pedantic pebble in shoe that you learn to live with and shake out periodically.