Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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Tom A
Goat among sheep
I've always thought that at the end of the day this alone would not put off people from voting Labour, since austerity, the NHS, etc is what voters are really concerned about. OTOH, a right-wing local Labour Party where I live (Manchester) who's leader is in cahoots with George Osbourne does put me off, although my ward candidate (and sitting councillor) seems to be fairly sympathetic towards social security claimants, but probably not so much that she will vote against yet more cuts to council services. Tempted to vote Green (personally know the candidate and he's pretty sound) but they will have no chance and any small drop in the Labour vote will be a massive boon to Corbyn's enemies.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
A pity that Sadiq Khan once thought it was okay to describe anti-Islamist Muslims as "Uncle Toms".
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Who says he was referring to anti-islamist muslims? He might well have been referring to tory muslims. Dodgy bit of editorialising there.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
Khan was referring to Quilliam, according to the Daily Mail. I initially linked to the Indie because I doubted people would take an article from the Mail at face value even if in this incidence it went into further detail.
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Tom A
Goat among sheep
They do some up with some valid points at times, particularly regarding the regressive left's appeasement and tacit support of Islamists. Regardless, describing them as "Uncle Toms" was never going to go down well.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
I'm not sure it's as clear cut as that. They say he was asked about why he worked with groups like QF - we need to see the question and whether it referred specifically to QF. That bit is not included in the attached video for some reason. Hearing only an answer always make me suspicious.
Tom A
Goat among sheep
The Daily Mail link was shared by Quilliam's own FB page (should have made that clear in post 1388), although I can't find anything else on their FB page or their website.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Again, doesn't mean anything beyond it fitting with their own agenda.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh well there'll be shits get in anyway
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh but with friends like yours, like toube and treelover, you don't really need enemies
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Google Trends - Web Search interest - Worldwide, 2004 - present
I'm not very savvy at tracking theses things down, was trying to isolate where the searches are located within England. Expected to see a big spike in London based searches around anti-Semitism, but it looks like Birmingham is the place.
gosub
~#
Though Mensch was in New York
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh it's cheaper to get the staff there
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Doesn't that suggest to you as it does to me some of lm's past searches?Though Mensch was in New York
Cid
Proper break this time
It's a relative measure. Hard to get much understanding from it other than knowing when something is more popular than it usually is.
gosub
~#
which was the point, they were all LM searches
Cid
Proper break this time
Yes, it tells you that anti-semitism related terms are er... 'trending' (an oft inappropriate word) at the moment. It doesn't tell you what the base level is.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh I thought we'd been through this or something very similar from lm before
Cid
Proper break this time
Eh? for one thing the figures are practically the same... What it is telling us is that a lot more people than usually search those terms are searching those terms now. This is hardly surprising given the last few days.
e2a: ah, see your point now.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
Yeah, I got that. I was really interested if there was a way of getting highly localised data to see where the searches are taking place within London. You'd expect to see a high volume of searches in Westminster itself, in the various party HQs and also around newspaper offices. Like I say, I'm not very tech savvy, but I'd imagine that data exists. Idle curiosity but I thought it would be fun to get a visual on the Westminster village obsession of the moment.
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