bimble
floofy
What are you on about. It's not one or the other, is it. Just ignore me please pickman, until I either give you a fulsome apology or go fuck myself as you suggested.
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The most 'liked' reply to one of his posts on the recent subject includes holocaust denial.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you've never wondered why auschwitz and treblinka and sobibor etc were in the back of beyond? Why even in official documents the Nazis did their best to obscure precisely what they were up to? The Nazis must have thought the Holocaust wouldn't have gone down too well with some people if they knew all about it...
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DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Good. He's filthy opportunist.
Doctor Carrot
Marxist Henchman
You really are bonkers.
If it was somone on the far right who had posted that, there would be major attempts to find out where he/she lives,
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Not surprised to see you defend vile insults. You clearly don't see anything wrong arrogating to herself the right to determine who's jewish. Bully for you, treelover, bully for you.
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
Labour did not have a major antisemitism problem. They do now.
Politics is so unfair eh. The baddies on the other team find your weak points and exploit\magnify them out of proportion.
Jolly unsporting.
Politics is so unfair eh. The baddies on the other team find your weak points and exploit\magnify them out of proportion.
Jolly unsporting.
bimble
floofy
I viley insulted you by wrongly accusing you of being.. Not even a tiny bit Jewish? Oh no. How awful. You'd be funny if you were less sad.
Meanwhile, fuck off with your 'the camps were in the middle of nowhere' bollocks. My grandparents were rounded up & delivered to the nazis by a helpful bunch of their neighbours, from Bratislava. The villagers of sobibor never noticed a bad smell .etc. Jesus.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If I had never previously mentioned being jewish, yes, I would have let your goysplaining shit pass. I find what you said very offensive, as I have no doubt it was intended to be. I am very sorry to hear about your grandparents, but a) you're by no means the only person here to lose relatives in the holocaust, most people don't use them as tools or pawns in an argument; b) sobibor etc in the back end of beyond for the people whose opinion mattered to Hitler, the Germans; if the Nazi anti-semitic campaign as popular, as resonant as you suggest then why weren't the death camps nearer reich metropolitan centres?
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teqniq
DisMembered
There's always new stuff being talked about on here, not necessarily in this instance, although some of it is new to me but that's what I love about this place.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Who uses that as a pejorative?!
I foresee Owen Jones on the Labour front bench soon enough. He may even be PM one day....if his dreams come true.
gosub
~#
That would make me a contributor to the things that make you feel old thread.....he looks about 12.
DrRingDing
'anti-human wanker'
Oh he's a cutie but behind that mask is an ambitious and calculated politician.
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
He'd do. At least he looks honest. Aha, ha ha aha ha.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
I've seen some criticism before of the polemical nature of Brenner's stuff (as opposed to Ken's cack-handed use of it) from academics, but is there any substantial factual challenge from legit historians on his source material?
Isn't Richard Evans a "legit historian"?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Sure he is, but that would be an example of 'criticism of the polemical nature ... ' at least in the stuff mk12 cited above.
Rather than e.g. showing that the primary sources Brenner cites documenting various kinds of zionist collaboration, or attempted collaboration, with the Nazis are forgeries or something.
Evans or other legit historians may have done this elsewhere though, which is what I'm asking about.
Rather than e.g. showing that the primary sources Brenner cites documenting various kinds of zionist collaboration, or attempted collaboration, with the Nazis are forgeries or something.
Evans or other legit historians may have done this elsewhere though, which is what I'm asking about.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
More likely to find dodgy referencing and inferences drawn
Example?
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
You not going to answer my question?
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Richard Evans (historian of Nazi Germany and the holocaust):
Here's the source for that, interesting comments following.
Listen - I have a close friend who spent two years converting from a Christian background to Judaism .In fact many Jews to this day would not regard him as a "yid" despite the fact that he was circumcised without any anaesthetic at the age of 31.
I went to his wedding - it was amazingly lavish.
And it was everything that antisemites hate.
And if my Muslim gf, who was not available, had attended you would have found it very confusing.
I went to his wedding - it was amazingly lavish.
And it was everything that antisemites hate.
And if my Muslim gf, who was not available, had attended you would have found it very confusing.
Bernie Gunther
Fundamentalist Druid
Sure, but if I recall right at least one of his books is just a collection of (rather damning) primary sources.
If those were some sort of "Protocols" style forgery I'd expect to find a lot of links to real historians saying so.
Cid
Proper break this time
Is there a point to this?
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