cantsin
Well-Known Member
tnx, just found the Henningsen / Williams Assange interview ... he must know who the feck Henningsen is / what he represents, good to know / will be useful, ta
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
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tnx, just found the Henningsen / Williams Assange interview ... he must know who the feck Henningsen is / what he represents, good to know / will be useful, ta
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
While I don't believe Home is scum, I do believe that relying on the testimony of someone whose oeuvre is to subvert fact, is foolish at best.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Having been subject to a relentless campaign of character assassination by this creep involving multiple leaflets,pamphlets and even a CD involving numerous lies I obviously have a different experience than you. But you may be right: perhaps scum performs a socially useful function, after all I think in the 19th Century scummell covered areas carpets didn’t. So you might have a point. I suppose it also my negative reaction to people who think dredging up internet garbage in itself proves a point, it doesn’t.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
Home is the quintessential unreliable narrator, which makes it ironic that his twenty-five-year-old descriptions of you, which seem so caricatured, actually chime so closely with your persona on these boards: boorish, arrogant, humourless and absurd.
Larry O'Hara
Well-Known Member
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
As someone I know (who I previously had a lot of respect for - despite being a Labour Party member) has been recently singing the praises of Jackie Walker and Chris Williamson, would someone be so kind as to give me a potted summary of their crimes? Pretty please?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Williamson is an Assadist shitbag, (see Labour & Anti-Semitism. for brief details) who is, to be generous, a bit of a dumbo who loves shouting his mouth off to irritate people and so is, to be generous, at least a knob over Israel. He was finally suspended from Labour for trying to host a JW meeting after she had been kicked out of the party and everyone had been told not to go on a platform with her.
Some of the anti-JW stuff is, I think, unfair. She was accused of saying the jews were prime financiers of the slave trade (pace Farrakhan), but was quoted rather out of context. And, in a supposedly private JLM meeting where people were encouraged to ask what might otherwise be awkward questions/statements without fear of reprisal, she was said the holocaust was no worse than the black holocaust in Africa under imperialism - and why weren't other holocausts included in holocaust memorial day - and that she didn't know a meaning of antisemitism that she was happy with. This was then leaked, which contradicted the whole point of the session. And I'd have had sympathy with her if she'd shuit up then, but she chose to go on Newsnight and say everything again (even the bits she had been corrected on) and said she stood by everything. More generally, she is just a massive egotist who only ever talks or cares about herself. Not totally unlike Williamson.
Proper Tidy
Arsed
The 'private JLM meeting' was antisemitism training she was obliged to attend by the labour party after doing the nation of islam conspiracy. Both scum.
Serge Forward
Just enjoyin' my coffee.
Ta folks.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
There's a good Bob from Brockley thread on Williamson somewhere iirc...? butchersapron
rekil
to menny cranks
This blog bit?
What's wrong with Chris Williamson?
I've lost count of the number of times I've seen people on Twitter - whether ignorantly or disingenuously - claiming to not know what's wro...
brockley.blogspot.com
There's too much on Venezuela and not enough on his association with Ickeist cesspit 21stcenturywire imo.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
Brockley, Paul Canning etc , bright folk, good on clear details / evidence etc, useful in the struggle vs the tin hatters.
Meanwhile Sir Keir reveals AFTER he's been selected leader that he took £50K from very busy arch Israeli State advocate / lobbyist / hawk Trevor Chinn, and it's only crank twitter ( and v much FB closed member groups ) that responds........ the terrain is completely clear for them ..... not a peep from the great alt centre rationalists
Meanwhile Sir Keir reveals AFTER he's been selected leader that he took £50K from very busy arch Israeli State advocate / lobbyist / hawk Trevor Chinn, and it's only crank twitter ( and v much FB closed member groups ) that responds........ the terrain is completely clear for them ..... not a peep from the great alt centre rationalists
Combustible
Well-Known Member
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
There’s been plenty of support for her and her Ilk on these boards
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Dunno if this will help. I’m not really into the Jewish communal politics stuff, but from what I understand it’s taken a lot of effort from black Jews to get this Board of Deputies – Board of Deputies to launch ‘Commission on Racial Inclusivity in the Jewish Community’
Treacle Toes
Time
Don't have another source for this but...
Equalities and Human Rights Commissioner Failed to Declare Tory fundraising
www.newsweek.com
Not looking good given...which people have been quick to point out.
www.theguardian.com
Equalities and Human Rights Commissioner Failed to Declare Tory fundraising
Exclusive: Equalities commissioner failed to declare Conservative Party fundraising
Pavita Cooper held a fundraising event for a Conservative MP attended by George Osborne and did not mention it to the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.
www.newsweek.com
Not looking good given...which people have been quick to point out.
Equalities watchdog drops plan for Tory Islamophobia inquiry
Conservative party commits to own investigation but UK’s largest Muslim body brands it a ‘facade’
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
Hmmm. Interesting.Don't have another source for this but...
Equalities and Human Rights Commissioner Failed to Declare Tory fundraising
Exclusive: Equalities commissioner failed to declare Conservative Party fundraising
Pavita Cooper held a fundraising event for a Conservative MP attended by George Osborne and did not mention it to the Equalities and Human Rights Commission.
Not looking good given...which people have been quick to point out.
Equalities watchdog drops plan for Tory Islamophobia inquiry
Conservative party commits to own investigation but UK’s largest Muslim body brands it a ‘facade’
Treacle Toes
Time
mauvais
on reddit or something
By the way while I know yours didn't respond, I got this done by emailing my regional branch. No form required.
bimble
floofy
I just read this , Jewish Voice For Labour's official statement on the maxine peake thing.
It says "Despite these disputed and in some cases unknowable facts, there is enough evidence to support Maxine Peake’s inference that the knee on neck technique has an Israeli origin, with a plausible even probable transmission mechanism to the US." So based on [?] they reckon Israel probably invented kneeling on necks and are responsible for neck kneeling being exported to america, previously a neck-kneeling free place. Just putting this here because what an example of the kneejerk instinct to double and triple down. And how anyone can take JVL seriously, if anyone still does, idk.
It says "Despite these disputed and in some cases unknowable facts, there is enough evidence to support Maxine Peake’s inference that the knee on neck technique has an Israeli origin, with a plausible even probable transmission mechanism to the US." So based on [?] they reckon Israel probably invented kneeling on necks and are responsible for neck kneeling being exported to america, previously a neck-kneeling free place. Just putting this here because what an example of the kneejerk instinct to double and triple down. And how anyone can take JVL seriously, if anyone still does, idk.
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
They published some Grayzone stuff on their site about Syria. Not sure what that’s got to do with their stated remit.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
I quite agree. It is stupid to make allegations of anti-semitism which are so obviously baseless. Who would contemplate doing such a thing?
cantsin
Well-Known Member
Plse show us any, at all
bimble
floofy
here let me help. This is a classic example & quite well ‘liked’ .
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
Clause 4 was put in place by the right of the party - by the fabians ffs - to put a lid on anti-capitalism. It was never anything but rhetoric designed to stop the party splitting. People used to know this before Corbyn. Basic labour history. Leo Panitch talks about this, doesn't he - the...
www.urban75.net
bimble
floofy
Weaponisation: bad, apart from when it’s a bit of a laugh.
cantsin
Well-Known Member
here let me help. This is a classic example & quite well ‘liked’ .
Labour & Anti-Semitism.
Clause 4 was put in place by the right of the party - by the fabians ffs - to put a lid on anti-capitalism. It was never anything but rhetoric designed to stop the party splitting. People used to know this before Corbyn. Basic labour history. Leo Panitch talks about this, doesn't he - the...
fair do’s , and I felt inclined that way a bit at first, but her ( apparent ) incessant, repeated refusal to even sound like she understands / acknowledges the unique horrors of the Jewish holocaust had a growing / cumulative effect on me ( and presumably others ) , ie : guess what I’m saying is there’s virtually no one left inside the Party still ( vocally ) supporting JW ( that I see ) .
cantsin
Well-Known Member
jeez, think I've accidentally ( ie : wasn't in any way trying / thinking about it etc ) stumbled on who you are IRL ( LK ? ).
If it is you, then you're (thankfully ) much less combative on here than twatter ( maybe we all are ) , even if we're never going to remotely see eye to eye
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
LK?
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