Knobheads at gigs

[mojo pixy]

I've never been to a really big gig like eg. Nikki Manaj. Maybe that's where most of the bad behaviour is. People there just to say they were there or have a night out.

Funnily enough at the gigs where you might expect a bit of a rough ride (punk, metal etc) people tend beyond that to be quite reasonable and friendly to each other, even factoring in the drinking. And real knobheads get dealt with pretty quickly. Same at raves really. Maybe that's just an in-group thing and the bigger the gig = the wider the appeal = the more knobheads.

 

[ska invita]

Yes and no to the OP in my experience.

Majority of live gigs I go to are at Jazz Cafe... They program acts I like. From day one that venue had a big STFU sign centeral stage. It kind of worked




New management took it down and have tried to turn the venue more into a nightclub... Way more chatting there these days. It's only annoying if the music is quiet/drum free though.

I've also been going to a few hardcore thrash metal type gigs and they've all been faultless from the crowd. Attentive, bit of moshing, broadly no phones.

I've made my peace with mobile phones now, it's not at every gig, but it is what it is. I don't think it's necessarily about atomised society etc. It's the existence of phones basically. Heritage acts in a pop setting bring out phones most ime.

Cultural behaviour does change over time.... More fights and pissed behaviour at West end musicals for example I've heard .... I find it hard to have a problem with that, sounds more like the theatre of aulde... a class barrier of sorts falling?

On the whole in my experience things are fine.... The bigger problem is music not being as good! If an act is slaying people will react accordingly.. mediocre music people get distracted.
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[Boris Sprinkler]

I’m pretty tall but try to appreciate shorter people in these situations by getting near the front but standing to the side nearest the wall. I think it’s a fair compromise as I’m buggered if I’m going to be permanently relegated to the back.

It makes sense. We were always cross legged at the front for class photos. It’s only fair.

 

[ska invita]

There is a social media vanity thing at play too... Look at me and where I am... By people who don't even necessarily like the thing they are doing
I don't experience it that much but I imagine certain gigs must be hell

 

[belboid]

I've never been to a really big gig like eg. Nikki Manaj. Maybe that's where most of the bad behaviour is. People there just to say they were there or have a night out.

nah, they're the best behaved. Young people who really want to see the artist. Or just really expensive, so gets rid of most of the casual viewers.

 

[klang]

There is a social media vanity thing at play too... Look at me and where I am... By people who don't even necessarily like the thing they are doing
I don't experience it that much but I imagine certain gigs must be hell

When I was in Mexico I went to a gig of a band I had worked with in London. Some fashion event in a fancy edgy warehouse setting. When the band came on, everyone, a few hundred people, rushed to the front of the stage. It was a bit of a surge. Wow, I thought to myself, they really picked up an audience since we recorded that record. Until I realised that everyone stood with their backs to the stage. It was selfie social media time. 3 minutes later it was over and done with. By the second song I was the only one left watching the band.

 

[skyscraper101]

When I was in Mexico I went to a gig of a band I had worked with in London. Some fashion event in a fancy edgy warehouse setting. When the band came on, everyone, a few hundred people, rushed to the front of the stage. It was a bit of a surge. Wow, I thought to myself, they really picked up an audience since we recorded that record. Until I realised that everyone stood with their backs to the stage. It was selfie social media time. 3 minutes later it was over and done with. By the second song I was the only one left watching the band.

Was the promoter Dom Joly?

 

[CNT36]

Perhaps each gig should nominate a tuss to film it and put it on online for all the others to watch.

 

[seeformiles]

Funnily enough at the gigs where you might expect a bit of a rough ride (punk, metal etc) people tend beyond that to be quite reasonable and friendly to each other, even factoring in the drinking. And real knobheads get dealt with pretty quickly. Same at raves really. Maybe that's just an in-group thing and the bigger the gig = the wider the appeal = the more knobheads.

Friendliest gigs I’ve experienced by a country mile are Hawkwind. Probably because people are on the “right” drugs, everyone looks out for everyone else and there’s always a hug, a smile and Valium if you’re having a freakout.

 

[tommers]

Things were definitely better before.

 

[Griff]

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Cultural behaviour does change over time.... More fights and pissed behaviour at West end musicals for example I've heard .... I find it hard to have a problem with that, sounds more like the theatre of aulde... a class barrier of sorts falling?

God! Pissed up fights at West End musicals.

Things really have changed since I was forced to go and see Whistle Down the Wind.

 

[Pickman's model]

there were some people manhandled out of the last jordi savall gig i went to, for refusing to shut up

 

[skyscraper101]

I've seen quite the upsurge in people at theatres being escorted out lately.

There was also someone manhadled out of the Adelphi theatre when I was watching the tamest of gigs - a Carpenters tribute - a few weeks ago.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

In 1990 I saw the Stones at Wembley stadium and some cunt was moaning at me and my gf for smoking a spliff. Fuckers have been moaning forever.

Tall people can fuck off though, or kneel down.

 

[ska invita]

God! Pissed up fights at West End musicals.

Things really have changed since I was forced to go and see Whistle Down the Wind.

There's the singalong issue there too

‘Bodyguard’ Musical Halted by ‘Mini-Riot,’ as Rowdy Theatergoers Loudly Singing Along With ‘I Will Always Love You’ Are Dragged Out

A touring production of the stage version of “The Bodyguard” was brought to a halt and canceled in Manchester, England on Friday night after patrons would not stop singing along with th…

variety.com

I can see why annoying but it's quite funny too.
The opposite of atomised neoliberal subjects imo

 

[ska invita]

Check the audio

 

[skyscraper101]

Call the cops

 

[klang]

I've seen quite the upsurge in people at theatres being escorted out lately.

There was also someone manhadled out of the Adelphi theatre when I was watching the tamest of gigs - a Carpenters tribute - a few weeks ago.

they were probably hammered.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

they were probably hammered.

Saw that pun coming.

 

[Winot]

Saw that pun coming.

Nailed it.

 

[ska invita]

‘I’ve been spat at’: half of UK theatre staff consider quitting over audience behaviour

Bectu launches safer theatres charter as survey reveals 45% of workers may quit due to shocking levels of antisocial behaviour by drunken theatregoers

www.theguardian.com

 

[skyscraper101]

‘I’ve been spat at’: half of UK theatre staff consider quitting over audience behaviour

Bectu launches safer theatres charter as survey reveals 45% of workers may quit due to shocking levels of antisocial behaviour by drunken theatregoers

www.theguardian.com

Musical theatre is a magnet for knobbers. Add in a few pre-theatre drinks and you've a recipe for mayhem. I used to DJ in the west end and I'd always spot groups of loud individuals all pumped up having a skinful before getting down to Grease or Mama Mia something.

 

[seeformiles]

Musical theatre is a magnet for knobbers. Add in a few pre-theatre drinks and you've a recipe for mayhem. I used to DJ in the west end and I'd always spot groups of loud individuals all pumped up having a skinful before getting down to Grease or Mama Mia something.

You could probably narrow that down further to Jukebox musicals

 

[ska invita]

poeple are blaming lockdowns - "people have forgotten their manners" - doesnt stack up to me

 

[belboid]

poeple are blaming lockdowns - "people have forgotten their manners" - doesnt stack up to me

I think that that might have held a little bit in the first splash of going back out again. But more than two years later? Nah.

 

[Dystopiary]

There's been a bit of talk about "tall people" but let's not ignore that the average men's height is 5½ inches more than the average woman's, so there's a bit of a gender issue there. It's much more likely to be women who are missing out. In Britain a woman of 5 foot 7 is on the tall side but still shorter than the average bloke.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

There's been a bit of talk about "tall people" but let's not ignore that the average men's height is 5½ inches more than the average woman's, so there's a bit of a gender issue there. It's much more likely to be women who are missing out. In Britain a woman of 5 foot 7 is on the tall side but still shorter than the average bloke.

Frau Bahn is 5'1 and 3/4" and there's always some monstrous beanpole stood in front of her, until she spills her beer down the back of his trousers.

 

[Hollis]

poeple are blaming lockdowns - "people have forgotten their manners" - doesnt stack up to me

That's crap! Simon Price's other point of people playing out music on the mobiles on public transport is yet another bugbear of mine. You can't go anywhere now without some bellend inflicting their shitty youtube or TikTok clips on you... want to go for a quiet coffee/pint... bring some noise cancelling headphones.

Regarding the 'playing out music' crap you have to partly blame the rise of bluetooth mobiles with no headphone socket.. but it's still the same atomised society with people not giving a shit..

And then you have ebikes/escooters and Deliveroo riders all over the fucking pavement.

Anyway - I'm going to fuck off and retire to a small village in the middle of the Somerset Levels.

 

[hitmouse]

Constant over-the-head phones are annoying, but getting annoyed at people singing along is bonkers killjoy stuff. "I think this recording would be better with no crowd singing on it" - the opinion of a wrongun who needs to be put down like a disposable vape:

 

[DJWrongspeed]

I was at the season opening concert of the LSO at the Barbican last night. It was a brilliant programme; the conductor, is also a singer, sung a short piece by Luigi Nono from the pedestal, that's a first!

A few rows in front of me were a big bunch of 6th formers who'd obviously been dragged along on a college trip. By the last piece one of them had got their phones out and was showing it to their friends. It was kind of hilarious; you're sitting metres away from the best orchestra in London with all the accumulated million hours of rehearsal & practice driven by hot young conductor Barbara Hannigan and the phone is more interesting! As above it's phones not people perhaps and I wasn't that surprise given their age. I've seen worse from mature audiences at the Proms.