I think Andy Burnham realises he can do more good politically to help more people in his current post, than he ever could as leader of the opposition.
Keir Starmer's time is up
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i dont think you have to be an mp to stand as leader
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Starmer ain't going anywhere until 2025 (unless he does a John Smith), It's 15 years and 4 leaders (5 if you count Harman) since Labour won an election and the very reason he was picked was the belief that he could win one, until he proves he can't, his position is safe.
oryx
Sitting on the bok of the day
I'm not sure, I thought you did, but will wait for someone with more political expertise to confirm!
If that's the case, I'd be very happy indeed to see him win a safe seat in a bye-election and win the leadership in a challenge or under other circumstances. I think he could do a far better job of uniting the LP, winning back voters in the north and midlands and looking like a potential PM than the current incumbent.
Wishful thinking, though.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
You don’t, technically. The rules (part 4) say MP’s are the only ones to nominate, but there is no restriction on who they can nominate. In practise they’ll never nominate someone who isn’t an MP but they are quite entitled to.
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it came up on the What If Bojo lost his seat in the election - it didnt matter basically , in the Tory rulebook at least
strung out
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You can't be Prime Minister if you're not an MP or in the Lords.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
In a truly amazing surprise Starmer walks back from the Labour's 2015-2019 economic policies at the CBI.
I've lost count of the number of pledges he's binned from his fraudulent leadership campaign
Streathamite
ideological dogmatist
Sadly, that will never happen. they suffer from the same fatal weakness Jeremy Corbyn and Tony benn had; they simply can't imagine a path for preogreesive politics that doesn't include the Labour Party, centre stage
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yeah the line " I’m under no illusion about the work we have to do if we’re to win back your trust. " is a real wind up....Corbynomics was widely support from major business bodies - in fact it was Tory austerity they kept saying was a fuck up.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Also every possible name they could give themselves is already taken by some faction of lunatic trots or other.
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
There's a Hungarian liberal party called Politics Can Be Different. Maybe it sounds better in the original Hungarian. But it does show that you don't have to call things by alphabet soup principles. E2A: though I see now that in Hung. it's still got a snappy acronym, LMP.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Indeed. I will never tire of telling the Labour members he mugged off with this stuff that they were mugged off
Sasaferrato
Super Refuser!
Well at the risk of upsetting the Godless heathens on here, most of you felt that Corbyn didn't go far enough, but the GBP disagreed, and gave the worst PM I've ever seen (and it was a keenly fought contest) a majority of 80, and the biggest drubbing Labour has had in my lifetime.
I feel that the 'answer' lies between Corbyn and Johnson, Starmer perhaps?
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Starmer wouldve lost against Johnson in 2019 - Brexit Had To Get Done
Captain Remain, architect of the key vote losing policy in Labour's 2019 platform, losing the Brexit election?
Bold statement
I think Corbyn went too far and was too accommodating. Doing deals with the CBI and threatening tens of thousands of extra police.
Giving in to remain lost the election though, as ska and jtg said.
1983 & 1987 were worse electoral defeats for Labour.
None of the above
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Depends on the question. If it was, 'who is a man I wouldn't trust further than I could spit a rat?' then Keir Starmer would be an entirely valid answer.
Raheem
Well-Known Member
IMO, if you know how far you can spit a rat, you have no valid answer to anything.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
The revisionist Starmer clique urge Labour to learn from Joe Biden’s neo-liberal clique. What they mean by ‘broad coalition’ of course is ‘purge the democrats and Labour of all socialists’.
www.theguardian.com
Keir Starmer urges Labour to learn from Joe Biden's 'broad coalition'
Writing in the Guardian, Labour leader says strategy that won back votes in the US can work in UK
mauvais
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And 1935.
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Kayakin' with Kier incoming
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