Keir Starmer's time is up

[SpookyFrank]

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Hate to give Johnson any credit for anything but that's a 10/10 burn on Starmer there. He really is fucking hopeless.

 

[steveseagull]

Dawn Butler has gone for him

 

[steveseagull]

So has Iain Dale lol

 

[steveseagull]

Hate to give Johnson any credit for anything but that's a 10/10 burn on Starmer there. He really is fucking hopeless.

Yep, totally self inflicted burn. I think his team are hard trolling him.

 

[oryx]

Dawn Butler has gone for him

Great letter. Well said, Dawn Butler.

 

[teqniq]

How desperate are people that starmer is the answer? Call him kieth and she blocks you. I used to think she was okay.

She blocked me for saying what was to her unkind things about David Lammy. I can't say I miss her really.

 

[steveseagull]

She blocked me for saying what was to her unkind things about David Lammy. I can't say I miss her really.

I am blocked too for pointing out her middle class sneering at northern people. Her audience seems to be horny centrist dad types who go giddy with excitement over Marina Hyde articles and think portmanteau swear words like 'Twatlantis' are really really cool and clever.

 

[ruffneck23]

Yeah I admit getting caught up in the supertanksi fandom, thought the tory swearing was quite funny.

Then she started becoming more centrist and then slagging off the more lefty posters and turning on people who supported Corbyn.

I dared to say that Starmer needs to be squeaky clean and a load of these centrist dad types started calling me a Tory enabler because I dared to question Starmer's integrity.

So now I dont really care for her and her acolytes.

 

[Pickman's model]

How desperate are people that starmer is the answer? Call him kieth and she blocks you. I used to think she was okay.

If shammer is the answer you should check the question

 

[Whagwan]

She's had me blocked for a while. Has some vile fans:



And some nice sneering at northerners here:

 

[steveseagull]

Aside from the sneering, this tends to be the general output of centrist 'political satirists' these days. probably less funny than Matt Forde if that is possible.

 

[PR1Berske]

 

[hitmouse]

The more I look at that, the more there is to love. I like the small words floating around, like the simple “bad”. Somehow, they’re both the funniest and most damning of all.

arsehole

So many gems in there, like "prat" and "pratt" both making it in, the undeniably accurate "sir", and the people who, desperately trying to think of anything at all they associate the substanceless twat with, ended up just picking

I challenge any of you to watch this video and still claim he is boring...

Strong Uncle Colm vibes there:

 

[elbows]

I assume the boring stuff is why we ended up with Starmer desperately going on about Jedi mind tricks and Jabba the Hutt the other day.

 

[magneze]

Maybe I've been in Covid jail too long but I'm finding this video interesting and informative:


Especially the bit on Starmer as Brexit Secretary where apparently he fucks up a potential soft Brexit deal and so we end up where we are now.

 

[Thesaint]

So who would be able to replace him as an option?
Ultimately his opposite number, Boris is still in his job only because there's no obvious replacement within his own party.

 

[Serge Forward]

So who would be able to replace him as an option?
Ultimately his opposite number, Boris is still in his job only because there's no obvious replacement within his own party.

Johnson. He's not your mate.

 

[Pickman's model]

So who would be able to replace him as an option?
Ultimately his opposite number, Boris is still in his job only because there's no obvious replacement within his own party.

And obviously only the obvious will do

 

[Knotted]

I think it's very unlikely that Starmer is going anywhere, but if he does its probably going to be Streeting who takes over. Ignoring the ridiculous hype about him, there isn't really an alternative. Nandy is a loose cannon, if Starmer is gone so is Rayner, Reeves is a nonentity, Thornberry is the only real talent but I don't think she has much of a base in the party, Burnham is not an MP, could I just say again - Burnham is not an MP. It would be fun if somebody like Burgon won a leadership contest, but I think the parliamentary party have learnt to not nominate leftwingers to "promote debate", it's just not going to happen again. So new new Labour it is.

 

[Chilli.s]

So who would be able to replace him as an option?

Zara Sultana

 

[platinumsage]

So who would be able to replace him as an option?
Ultimately his opposite number, Boris is still in his job only because there's no obvious replacement within his own party.

Yesterday the Mail ran these two stories side-by-side:

 

[SpookyFrank]

Zara Sultana

There aren't enough lefties left (sorry) in the PLP to allow Sultana or anyone similar to even get on the ticket for a leadership contest. It's possible Rayner has only been pretending to be a boot boy for the labour right so that she can sneak into the top job and then reveal herself to be a socialist after all, but that very slim possibility is also exactly why the PLP won't let her get anywhere near the leadership either.

e2a: Starmer's goons in the NEC have also been working to get Sultana deselected by her local party IIRC.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Have a quick google of Zara Sultana and see how much dirt the tabloids have already thrown at her. If you think they went in two-footed on Corbyn, just imagine how they'd treat a young, female, non-white person in his position.

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

 

[Thesaint]

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Aha...who spotted the spelling mistake on that tin?

 

[Boris Sprinkler]

I c+p'd from reddit.

 

[two sheds]

Aha...who spotted the spelling mistake on that tin?

I thought you meant 'sitting'

 

[agricola]

I think it's very unlikely that Starmer is going anywhere, but if he does its probably going to be Streeting who takes over. Ignoring the ridiculous hype about him, there isn't really an alternative. Nandy is a loose cannon, if Starmer is gone so is Rayner, Reeves is a nonentity, Thornberry is the only real talent but I don't think she has much of a base in the party, Burnham is not an MP, could I just say again - Burnham is not an MP. It would be fun if somebody like Burgon won a leadership contest, but I think the parliamentary party have learnt to not nominate leftwingers to "promote debate", it's just not going to happen again. So new new Labour it is.

Wes Streeting? The man is the very last squeezings of a thirty-year-old tube of toothpaste which was unpleasant and completely ineffective at the time, never mind now. John Woodcock would have more chance of becoming the next Labour PM than him.

 

[srb7677]

I think it's very unlikely that Starmer is going anywhere, but if he does its probably going to be Streeting who takes over. Ignoring the ridiculous hype about him, there isn't really an alternative. Nandy is a loose cannon, if Starmer is gone so is Rayner, Reeves is a nonentity, Thornberry is the only real talent but I don't think she has much of a base in the party, Burnham is not an MP, could I just say again - Burnham is not an MP. It would be fun if somebody like Burgon won a leadership contest, but I think the parliamentary party have learnt to not nominate leftwingers to "promote debate", it's just not going to happen again. So new new Labour it is.

Which is why Labour is widely regarded as a lost cause by the British left, and why we won't back or vote for it. And it is unlikely to win over enough Tories to make up the difference.

Since my time in the party I have gotten to know many on the local left. And it is not just those who joined under Miliband and Corbyn who have left in disgust but lifelong members who had been there for decades. In the last local elections they had to post leaflets via Royal Mail because they no longer had the volunteers to deliver them by hand. Hardly anyone in my ward saw any kind of Labour canvasser. Even the local candidate barely showed up.

 

[prunus]

Which is why Labour is widely regarded as a lost cause by the British left, and why we won't back or vote for it. And it is unlikely to win over enough Tories to make up the difference.

Since my time in the party I have gotten to know many on the local left. And it is not just those who joined under Miliband and Corbyn who have left in disgust but lifelong members who had been there for decades. In the last local elections they had to post leaflets via Royal Mail because they no longer had the volunteers to deliver them by hand. Hardly anyone in my ward saw any kind of Labour canvasser. Even the local candidate barely showed up.

I’m a life-long member, but haven’t yet left in disgust. I understand the sentiments being expressed, but what I don’t know is what is the proposed solution (following on from abandoning the Labour Party) that doesn’t result in the country being trashed by decades of Tory rule?