Keir Starmer's time is up

[Jeff Robinson]

The whole shambles here.



No wonder he hates Corbyn. He could go out and talk to lots of people without daft publicity stunts in hi viz.

This is what revisionist parking looks like

By contrast, Corbyn would've been hopping and doing doughnuts in that thing

 

[magneze]

The instructor says "move to your left" and Keith promptly runs it over using a lorry going backwards.

 

[gosub]

The whole shambles here.



No wonder he hates Corbyn. He could go out and talk to lots of people without daft publicity stunts in hi viz.

Publicity stunt in a viz that meant somebody who actually does want a job had to wait for an instructor

 

[hitmouse]

The cunt's enough of a menace to cyclists in his SUV, imagine what he'd do to Deliveroo riders if they let him have a lorry?

 

[Gramsci]

No doubt. And Kenan Malik reminds us that the cause of low pay is capitalism and not people:

Blame the erosion of trade union power, not migrants, for poor wages | Kenan Malik

If we really want a high-wage, high-skill economy, it’s time to go back to the future

www.theguardian.com

However, the point I was making was a very specific one: the vapidity of Labour’s position on labour shortages which explicitly calls for the UK to tap into exploited labour

I read that article before.

Your last sentence shows you don't get the point of it.

This is what you said in post 6044. What you're leaving out from this is any say for these EU workers. For example they didn't get a vote in the referendum. Despite like my partner being on the electoral roll and working here for some years. I know plenty of EU workers who've live here for five/ ten years before referendum. As exploited workers they should have had a say. Instead of being used as a political football by Brexit left and right.

You are also correct that - bar the Labour Party and middle class liberals - there is no support for more exploited labour from the poorest parts of the EU.

Tbf I've been trying to avoid Brexit here recently. I thought on this thread at least it wouldn't come up.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

I read that article before.

Your last sentence shows you don't get the point of it.

This is what you said in post 6044. What you're leaving out from this is any say for these EU workers. For example they didn't get a vote in the referendum. Despite like my partner being on the electoral roll and working here for some years. I know plenty of EU workers who've live here for five/ ten years before referendum. As exploited workers they should have had a say. Instead of being used as a political football by Brexit left and right.



Tbf I've been trying to avoid Brexit here recently. I thought on this thread at least it wouldn't come up.

But we aren't talking about the referendum. Or Brexit for that matter. We are talking about Labour's response to the current labour shortages, on a thread about the leader.

 

[brogdale]

Probably nothing we didn't already know, but interesting to see Barwell spell it out so starkly:

 

[steveseagull]

With the Claudia Webbe verdict it looks like Keith may have another by-election to fuck up

 

[steveseagull]

Absolute state of this. Looks like Corbyn may be readying himself to get in on the action as well. I do not blame him.

Labour spending more on legal battles than campaigning, say sources

Exclusive: As action against ex-Corbyn staffers looms, falling membership is also hitting finances

www.theguardian.com

 

[SpookyFrank]

Absolute state of this. Looks like Corbyn may be reading himself to get in on the action as well. I do not blame him.

Labour spending more on legal battles than campaigning, say sources

Exclusive: As action against ex-Corbyn staffers looms, falling membership is also hitting finances

www.theguardian.com

To be fair, the more campaigning Starmer does the less popular he gets. The sensible thing to do in that situation is to stop digging.

 

[ska invita]

Finally Starmer in a comfortable walkabout situation

 

[ska invita]

More details in the comments

 

[steveseagull]

Never assume that the people calling themselves 'the adults' are serious people.



not forgetting:

 

[Quote]

Obviously, the one man to actually increase Labour's vote this century was the problem. Utter deranged lunatics.

 

[steveseagull]

At this stage, it has got to be said, Corbyn is living full time rent free in Starmer's head. Starmer clearly hates the fact the he has less charisma and he is less popular. It must be wrecking his head all day every day.

 

[Elpenor]

Starmer closing in on Davey there

 

[brogdale]

I know this is coming from Sky but, on the presumption that it's not totally fabricated, WTAF....

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

'Do fuck all, but do it better.'

Genius.

 

[elbows]

They've not been impressive at all during the pandemic and in the vaccine era they got much, much worse. Nobody is looking to them to do the right thing at this stage.

 

[Chilli.s]

nothing like opposition

 

[Leighsw2]

I actually think that it's his woeful performance on Covid (rather than the internal factional stuff) that will do for him. Has any Labour leader since Blair cost more lives?

 

[Elpenor]

He’s preparing for being in government by simply agreeing with whatever the government do.

Perhaps his renowned legal brain is on to something we can’t see.

 

[TopCat]

He never seems at ease with himself.

 

[ska invita]

He never seems at ease with himself.

shifty fucker for sure

a family man

 

[elbows]

He never seems at ease with himself.

When he was described as looking like he had been tasered after a poor election result, I did think 'but he often looks like that!'

If he was in a film or tv programme where the audience was just waiting for half the characters to be killed off, he would be a strong candidate to be eaten by the blob quite early on.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I actually think that it's his woeful performance on Covid (rather than the internal factional stuff) that will do for him. Has any Labour leader since Blair cost more lives?

Paul

I wouldn't separate the two tbh. Purging his party of leftists and alienating most of the membership is what he has been doing instead of opposing the government on covid. The root cause of both failures is the same, namely he's an establishment enforcer to his bones. Any actual politics he may have is at best window dressing.

 

[Chilli.s]

Starmer is almost Johnson's yes man, I recon he's frightened of him

 

[TopCat]

Starmer is almost Johnson's yes man, I recon he's frightened of him

He knows he has no charisma. Can you imagine Starmer telling a joke?

 

[pesh]

 

[Serene]

I apologise, but I still cant tell the difference between Starmer and a Tory. I have little doubt he wears pin striped suits, has gold cufflinks and drives a 1970`s Jag with leather seats and a walnut dashboard.