maomao
普費斯
I think it's this one actually:
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Keir Starmer's time is up
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Brainaddict
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Though he will doubtless drop the promise they (catastrophically for themselves I think) failed to keep first time round:
"We are committed to a referendum on the voting system for the House of Commons. An independent commission on voting systems will be appointed early to recommend a proportional alternative to the first-past-the-post system."
andysays
Love and solidarity
You must have a far more active imagination than me, ska....imagine if he wins the next election
open goal here surely
hitmouse
entreprenulsoip critical thinking
"Decisive course to the centre ground..."
Determined path to nothing in particular ...
Chilli.s
mingling jets and statuettes
That's what it looks like to me too. kieth should fuck off and start his own party
ruffneck23
front left
This is what you get when a 'Sir' leads the labour party.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Labour increasingly confident that they can finally defeat Labour
There is growing confidence from within the Labour Party that they could finally defeat the Labour Party.
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Puddy_Tat
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I fucking love Rickie Lambert
Shechemite
Be the sun and all will see you
Who’s rickie lambert?
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Ex England striker.
steveseagull
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RileyOBlimey
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Well, supporting apartheid is pretty bigoted. Not just passively either.
Gramsci
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I was listening to the the Radio 4 news this morning and to my surprise ex Leader of Lambeth Council, Uber Blairite Steve Reed popped up. He got quite hard questioning about Starmer attempt to change rules on electing leader. He evaded all of that. Kept saying the Labour Party needs to stop looking inward. That Starmer had gone the length and breadth of the country talking to ordinary people.
So the line is going to be that this rule change on electing leader is only an issue for politicos. Its not of interest to the ordinary Labour voter.
I think what Starmer and those on the right of party like Steve Reed want is for the media not to go on about this. To let them bring in rule changes to make sure membership never again vote in someone like Corbyn.
The subtext of his essay is that there are Labour Party members and in contrast hard working families.
Problem is as many point out the right of the party have nothing in way of vision to offer. It is as posters here have said reheated Blairism.
What does annoy me is that Corbyn gave people like Steve Reed posts.
I had thought that Starmer was genuine. That he would be more so called moderate but would have a few from left in his shadow cabinet. That he would keep Green New Deal.
I've been reading Paint Your Town Red on the Preston experiment. Brought in by Corbyn supporting wing of party. But something like Green New Deal the left and right of party could agree on.
My criticism of Starmer is that he has not done what he promised. There are policies that could unite that party.
Based around local issues. I really don't understand how he has travelled so quick from his leadership promises to unite party to having spokes people like Steve Reed from right of party sent to Radio news.
So the line is going to be that this rule change on electing leader is only an issue for politicos. Its not of interest to the ordinary Labour voter.
I think what Starmer and those on the right of party like Steve Reed want is for the media not to go on about this. To let them bring in rule changes to make sure membership never again vote in someone like Corbyn.
The subtext of his essay is that there are Labour Party members and in contrast hard working families.
Problem is as many point out the right of the party have nothing in way of vision to offer. It is as posters here have said reheated Blairism.
What does annoy me is that Corbyn gave people like Steve Reed posts.
I had thought that Starmer was genuine. That he would be more so called moderate but would have a few from left in his shadow cabinet. That he would keep Green New Deal.
I've been reading Paint Your Town Red on the Preston experiment. Brought in by Corbyn supporting wing of party. But something like Green New Deal the left and right of party could agree on.
My criticism of Starmer is that he has not done what he promised. There are policies that could unite that party.
Based around local issues. I really don't understand how he has travelled so quick from his leadership promises to unite party to having spokes people like Steve Reed from right of party sent to Radio news.
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Raheem
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You can get from Leeds to Newcastle really quickly if you were lying about being in Leeds and you were actually in Gateshead.
Gramsci
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Gave his essay a quick read.
Few things:
He puts in all the info about why Tory governments have worsened inequality etc. Fair enough. Don't think many would disagree with that side to it.
He's got it in for the SNP. Makes a distinction between Nationalism ( bad and divisive) and Patriotism ( belief in the Union and tolerant).
Myself if Scots want a referendum and leave that's up to them. That part of essay didn't do anything for me. He's trying to make out SNP are as bad as the Tories.
He goes on about the way in pandemic people help others in their community. That this shows better side of society that could be built on
His answer is the Contribution society. Work hard , play by the rules and you will be supported by a Labour government.
I thought that a lesson of pandemic was that people will cooperate for the common good. I saw it in Foodbank and in local Mutual aid group. Also my Labour council did help a lot on food distribution.
My first read of his essay and he is saying some of the right things then is terrified of using the S word. It has to be Contribution society not Cooperative. Definitely no mention of Socialism.
Contribution makes it sound transactional . When what I saw and I think he saw was people giving help to others freely.
My experience of working in a very busy Foodbank in pandemic few days a week was that work could be completely different experience. Everyone got the work done in fairly egalitarian cooperative way
I'd say his vision is limited.
Few things:
He puts in all the info about why Tory governments have worsened inequality etc. Fair enough. Don't think many would disagree with that side to it.
He's got it in for the SNP. Makes a distinction between Nationalism ( bad and divisive) and Patriotism ( belief in the Union and tolerant).
Myself if Scots want a referendum and leave that's up to them. That part of essay didn't do anything for me. He's trying to make out SNP are as bad as the Tories.
He goes on about the way in pandemic people help others in their community. That this shows better side of society that could be built on
His answer is the Contribution society. Work hard , play by the rules and you will be supported by a Labour government.
I thought that a lesson of pandemic was that people will cooperate for the common good. I saw it in Foodbank and in local Mutual aid group. Also my Labour council did help a lot on food distribution.
My first read of his essay and he is saying some of the right things then is terrified of using the S word. It has to be Contribution society not Cooperative. Definitely no mention of Socialism.
Contribution makes it sound transactional . When what I saw and I think he saw was people giving help to others freely.
My experience of working in a very busy Foodbank in pandemic few days a week was that work could be completely different experience. Everyone got the work done in fairly egalitarian cooperative way
I'd say his vision is limited.
steveseagull
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What an embarrassment this afternoon has been. He has destroyed his own authority before conference has begun.
elbows
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Are you referring to this by any chance?
Keir Starmer fails to win support for rule change in ‘car crash’ meeting with unions
Leader leader wants to scrap “one member, one vote” for leadership elections
www.independent.co.uk
elbows
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As I was walking down the street one day
I saw a house on fire
There was a man, shouting and screaming at an upper-storey window
To the crowd that was gathered there below
For he was sore afraid
Jump! You fucker, jump!
Jump into this here blanket what we are holding
And you will be all right
He jumped, hit the deck, broke his fucking neck
There was no blanket
I saw a house on fire
There was a man, shouting and screaming at an upper-storey window
To the crowd that was gathered there below
For he was sore afraid
Jump! You fucker, jump!
Jump into this here blanket what we are holding
And you will be all right
He jumped, hit the deck, broke his fucking neck
There was no blanket
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