Just Stop Oil

[Rob Ray]

Hallam among those potentially facing serious jail time (though exactly where they'll put them given the prison overcrowding crisis is unclear)

Just Stop Oil activists found guilty of conspiring to block M25 traffic

Roger Hallam, Daniel Shaw, Louise Lancaster, Lucia Whittaker De Abreu and Cressida Gethin face long sentences after verdict

www.theguardian.com

 

[Pickman's model]

Anyone know more about these arrests?

We refuse to die for fossil fuels – Just Stop Oil response to police raids resulting in at least 27 arrests. – Just Stop Oil

Over the last 12 hours the British state has acted unlawfully in detaining a total of at least 27 ordinary people sharing food at a community event and at their homes. Their only crime? They are Just Stop Oil supporters. Being a Just Stop Oil supporter is now enough to make you a suspect. Believing

juststopoil.org

They should sue for compo but I bet some them want to go for a jr

 

[Rob Ray]

Fuck me five years for Hallam and four for his crew is a bit steep, even by the standards of "making an example".

Five Just Stop Oil activists receive record sentences for planning to block M25

Campaigners receive longest ever sentences for non-violent protest after being convicted of conspiracy to cause public nuisance

www.theguardian.com

The judge's line as well is telling a tale (as though his antics banning them and their supporters from mentioning their cause hadn't prior to now) - been reading too many tabloid op-eds.

“I acknowledge that at least some of the concerns are shared by many, but the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic.”

 

[ska invita]

Fuck me five years for Hallam and four for his crew is a bit steep, even by the standards of "making an example".

Five Just Stop Oil activists receive record sentences for planning to block M25

Campaigners receive longest ever sentences for non-violent protest after being convicted of conspiracy to cause public nuisance

www.theguardian.com

Genuinley shocked

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Genuine grounds for appeal! Absolute batshit sentences. Doubt Keith gives much of a fuck either.

 

[teqniq]

The replies to the Just Stop Oil tweet about this are 99% variations on 'good' 'should have got more' etc. Many people are fucking stupid and completely selfish.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Twitter/X what ever it’s fuckin called, is just like a shitty local rag with thick cunts leaving comments.

 

[teqniq]

Not all of it and not all the time.

 

[hash tag]

Just when the current government are trying to reduce the numbers in prison. That's crazy.
Our right to protest is being slowly diminished. No demo's without prior approval of the police,
no demo's on Parliament Sq since we lost Brian Hawe. This smacks for a move towards a police state.
I cannot wait for the time when I dont have to worry about my job when I go on a demo.
5 years and 4 years

 

[Rob Ray]

The replies to the Just Stop Oil tweet about this are 99% variations on 'good' 'should have got more' etc. Many people are fucking stupid and completely selfish.

Worth reminding these cretins that most of them have been cheering on the cutting down of ULEZ cameras.

 

[danny la rouge]

Fuck me five years for Hallam and four for his crew is a bit steep, even by the standards of "making an example".

Five Just Stop Oil activists receive record sentences for planning to block M25

Campaigners receive longest ever sentences for non-violent protest after being convicted of conspiracy to cause public nuisance

www.theguardian.com

The judge's line as well is telling a tale (as though his antics banning them and their supporters from mentioning their cause hadn't prior to now) - been reading too many tabloid op-eds.

“I acknowledge that at least some of the concerns are shared by many, but the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic.”

Where is the line, who drew it, and what’s the penalty for being judged to have crossed it?

Because I’m more than “concerned” myself. Much more.

 

[TopCat]

It was always going to end this way for Hallam. He is a fanatic. Recruiting people to disrupt Heathrow with drones and the M25 by dangling themselves off of gantries was always going to get a pushback from the state.

I hope he gets more support from comrades than he ever gave.

 

[Pickman's model]

“I acknowledge that at least some of the concerns are shared by many, but the plain fact is that each of you has some time ago crossed the line from concerned campaigner to fanatic.”

Where is the line, who drew it, and what’s the penalty for being judged to have crossed it?

Because I’m more than “concerned” myself. Much more.

On the other hand it's a day or less for each of the people prosecuted for xr activity who received no solidarity or support from the organisation. RH is imo a nasty piece of work who has had a fuckton of support and sympathy that he wasn't prepared to offer to others.

 

[Elpenor]

Are any of the motorists filmed dragging / pushing over protesters going to be prosecuted?

Notable lack of repeal for recent protest legislation yesterday

 

[bemused]

It's strange to me that there doesn't seem to be some form of home imprisonment. Maybe there is, but I have zero knowledge of the criminal justice system.

 

[danny la rouge]

On the other hand it's a day or less for each of the people prosecuted for xr activity who received no solidarity or support from the organisation. RH is imo a nasty piece of work who has had a fuckton of support and sympathy that he wasn't prepared to offer to others.

I was less than impressed by his manipulative attitude in the Chris Packham documentary. It set off alarm bells. However, there are two principles that supersede my misgivings about the man: the urgency of the climate crisis, and the tyranny of the state in cracking down on protest.

 

[Rob Ray]

House arrest or curfew with ankle tag is a thing, but not in this case.

 

[hash tag]

It's strange to me that there doesn't seem to be some form of home imprisonment. Maybe there is, but I have zero knowledge of the criminal justice system.

Not home imprisonment as such but is tagging ( with curfew ) still a thing?

 

[Rob Ray]

I was less than impressed by his manipulative attitude in the Chris Packham documentary. It set off alarm bells. However, there are two principles that supersede my misgivings about the man: the urgency of the climate crisis, and the tyranny of the state in cracking down on protest.

Yeah this basically, can't stand the bloke as an activist but where he goes so go others, etc.

 

[bemused]

Not home imprisonment as such but is tagging ( with curfew ) still a thing?

I'd guess so. In the US, they have GPS tags that allow them to monitor your location whenever they want.

 

[ska invita]

Petition is doing good numbers, for what it's worth (nothing), 17k so far, reckon it will hit 100k

Stop Jailing Truth Tellers

Sign the petition! Stop Jailing Those Telling The Truth. I signed a petition on Action Network telling the UK attorney general to stop imprisoning protesters telling the truth on climate. Cressie, Daniel, Lou, Lucia and Roger (the WholeTruthFive) have been sentenced to a combined 21 in prison...

actionnetwork.org

 

[hitmouse]

no demo's on Parliament Sq since we lost Brian Hawe.

As a sidenote, is this right? I sort of thought the tories had repealed (that bit of) SOCPA, dunno what the current state of play is though.

 

[TopCat]

As a sidenote, is this right? I sort of thought the tories had repealed (that bit of) SOCPA, dunno what the current state of play is though.

Loads of demos end there

 

[The39thStep]

House arrest or curfew with ankle tag is a thing, but not in this case.

Classified as non custodial.In this case the judge has obviously ruled that this offence or offences can only deserve a custodial sentence.
I suspect any appeal will be targeted on a threshold of normally a custodial sentence however possibly suspended or community sentence with restriction of liberty?

 

[8ball]

Yeah this basically, can't stand the bloke as an activist but where he goes so go others, etc.

WWG1WGA… has a ring of familiarity to it.

 

[hash tag]

I remember an act coming in to force while Brian Haw was still around but they made a loop hole for him to remain, even keeping his space when he went t in to hospital.
For the current state, it's a touch ambiguous, see protests

Parliament Square - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[hash tag]

Ps was Brian Haw an extremist, had he crossed the line or had he lost the plot. He walked away from his family to be there, and there he stayed.

 

[kenny g]

First they came for the lone person shouting, then they came for the people shouting, then they came for the people suggesting people shout and then they came for us.

The criminalisation of state perceived extremism is quite something.

 

[Elpenor]

As an example; a shorter sentence was handed out last month for killing someone

Family left speechless over killer driver's sentence

"When hearing he would only be serving one year and six months in jail and the remaining on probation I felt the rush of rage, anger and helplessness."

www.devonlive.com

 

[hash tag]

As an example; a shorter sentence was handed out last month for killing someone

Family left speechless over killer driver's sentence

"When hearing he would only be serving one year and six months in jail and the remaining on probation I felt the rush of rage, anger and helplessness."

www.devonlive.com

Was just saying in work people get less for manslaughter or killing someone in an rta