It does make a lot more sense in terms of message.Guess they read urban and saw the error of their ways after all
Just Stop Oil protesters target private airfield 'where Taylor Swift's jet landed hours earlier'
Stansted Airport has said runway operations were briefly suspended and two people were arrested. Just Stop Oil has warned there could be more targets this summer.news.sky.com
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bemused
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Every time they look outside they'll see a ghostly white stag.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Next stop, throwing freddos at hadrians wall
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
What conversation? They'll, again, get invited on to Alan Partridge or Talk Concrete where their interlocutor will be a bad faith wanker who has control over the converation. They have zero media awareness and will end up flailing and looking stupid. There is no conversation and the government find them laughable
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
Flour bombing stonehenge isn't disruptive it just looks silly and facile. In fact it would be more logical, according to their worldview, to actually damage stonehenge and use that to say nothing is going to be free from the damage of climate change, so if you care about this...act.
They won't of course.
Artaxerxes
Look out, he's got a gnu!
More logical is look 10 metres to the side of it and cause a delay on the fucking A road next to the monument. You know the peak tribute to car culture that sullies the landscape.
Oh wait, they can’t disrupt that any more than it already is it’s so busy.
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
People are going on about the lichen now. We're truly a nation of absolute fucking tools. Fucking lichen!
Hundreds of people have died on the way to Mecca, the US is seeing temps of 100f, and we're all worried cos those nasty orange people might have upset the lichen.
Just fucking kill me now. Take me to heaven's sweet oblivion. Some bloke has examined the rocks with a microscope and they're very porous apparently, so that flour will be there for longer than you think.
Jesus fucking christ.
Hundreds of people have died on the way to Mecca, the US is seeing temps of 100f, and we're all worried cos those nasty orange people might have upset the lichen.
Just fucking kill me now. Take me to heaven's sweet oblivion. Some bloke has examined the rocks with a microscope and they're very porous apparently, so that flour will be there for longer than you think.
Jesus fucking christ.
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tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
They've chucked paint on (I think Taylor Swift's) jet (although it isn't really clear).
Is that OK? No lichen on there I guess.
www.theguardian.com
Is that OK? No lichen on there I guess.
Two people arrested after activists spray private jets with paint at Stansted
Just Stop Oil activists cut through fence to break into Essex airfield where Taylor Swift’s plane stationed
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
tommers
Fuck it, it's fine.
Lol.
lazythursday
Well-Known Member
Now with the attack on Taylor Swift's jet I think this is perhaps more thought out than it first appeared. Do something outrageous that gets everyone looking at you and saying 'why don't they pick more appropriate targets' and then follow up with exactly that.
Flavour
hang the bankers
I love JSO. This is a great 1-2 punch. Stonehenge to get the media attention then the private jets (which otherwise might not have got as much attention). It's genius.
And everybody complaining and whinging about it and appropriate targets, I just enjoy it all so much.
And everybody complaining and whinging about it and appropriate targets, I just enjoy it all so much.
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
The Taylor Swift one is so much more meaningful because her reaction when people pointed out how many jet trips she makes, and how some of the trips are for short distances where alternatives make sense has been to go to court and try and try and make it illegal to post her trips (claiming security concerns) rather than make even a performative effort to reduce them in the slightest.
As it is, because of the timing, the action that made sense and highlighting again how some individuals use more oil in a week than others will use in a life time is worthwhile but instead it is drowned by the noise created by chucking flour on rocks.
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As it is, because of the timing, the action that made sense and highlighting again how some individuals use more oil in a week than others will use in a life time is worthwhile but instead it is drowned by the noise created by chucking flour on rocks.
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Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
What does getting the media's attention achieve? The media just misrepresents them and propagandises against them, further alienating them from everyone else.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
do we think this is the first time in what, 4, 5 millennia that someone did a bit of paint on stonehenge.
Silas Loom
Advanced. Forthright. Signifficant.
The religious authorities used regularly to spill blood on the stones without worrying too much about lichen.
Karl Masks
Birds Angel Delight
I don't the issue is the material itself.
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
There was some 'ban the bomb' stuff back in the sixties at Stonehenge.
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
Regarding the lichen, that's exactly the point. It is such a useless protest in terms of the climate that people are talking about lichen and damage to the stones. They then paint some jet orange, which is a much better form of protest, but because of the pointless stonehenge protest people are still talking about that and lichen and not the jet protest.
lazythursday
Well-Known Member
they don't care! people get mad at them but they also have to spend time thinking about why they're doing it. There doesn't seem to be any evidence that this kind of action alienates people from the overall cause, eg politicians actually doing something about emissions.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
So has the needle moved at all on getting the government to discontinue approving new oil and gas licences, or is inconsequential attention-seeking the entire point of such stunts? Like streaking at sports events.
Yes, JSO gets in the news when they block roads and chuck coloured shit on artworks and monuments. But then what? People who agree wholeheartedly will applaud them as usual, and the same responses will come from the critics both sincere and otherwise, because nothing about these actions are fundamentally different from before. Unless JSO escalate their behaviour, then it seems likely that at some point the novelty will wear off and both the media and the general public will lose interest.
Apparently some sort of civic alchemy is supposed to happen at some point, somehow, that results in other people doing the real work. Personally I'm not sure how occasionally causing traffic jams and doing petty vandalism will motivate the folks who aren't already on board with JSO's way of doing things. But having these doubts makes me a planet-killing Daily Mail reader. How inspiring!
Yes, JSO gets in the news when they block roads and chuck coloured shit on artworks and monuments. But then what? People who agree wholeheartedly will applaud them as usual, and the same responses will come from the critics both sincere and otherwise, because nothing about these actions are fundamentally different from before. Unless JSO escalate their behaviour, then it seems likely that at some point the novelty will wear off and both the media and the general public will lose interest.
Apparently some sort of civic alchemy is supposed to happen at some point, somehow, that results in other people doing the real work. Personally I'm not sure how occasionally causing traffic jams and doing petty vandalism will motivate the folks who aren't already on board with JSO's way of doing things. But having these doubts makes me a planet-killing Daily Mail reader. How inspiring!
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Just makes work for volunteers cleaning it. Very reasonable response from the head of English National Heritage on World Service, refusing to call for new laws to protect sites, but expressing sadness at the action. It didn't damage the stones, but it could have done, and it did give a bunch of volunteers unnecessary work to do.
Weird choice of target. Counterproductive.
Weird choice of target. Counterproductive.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
my google skills aren't good enough to find out how much lichen based concern and anguish there was at the time but I found this bit from hansard:
Stonehenge (Defacement) (Hansard, 14 March 1961)
Stonehenge (Defacement) (Hansard, 14 March 1961)
api.parliament.uk
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