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Jihadi Jack wants to come back because he misses Dr Who
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Jihadi Jack has been discussed before. His situation is clearer: he’s in a Kurdish jail, and has been for a couple of years. His parents are awaiting trial here for aiding terrorism (ie, sending him money). And the UK is in no hurry to extradite him.
His dual nationality is clear cut. Nobody has to perform any constructive clerical cleverness. He’s not stateless. He’s in a YPG prison.
I’d say, don’t help to get back to the UK. But if he eventually does, prosecute him.
His dual nationality is clear cut. Nobody has to perform any constructive clerical cleverness. He’s not stateless. He’s in a YPG prison.
I’d say, don’t help to get back to the UK. But if he eventually does, prosecute him.
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Plastic Paddy
Her post is a thinly veiled pop at me "I'm alright Javid" though she attempts to conceal this by pretending she's addressing the HS.
For the record, my position on JJ is that if possible he should have his UK citizenship revoked, tried by the Syrians or Iraqis, and if found guilty (
) executed by them.
Treacle Toes
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You do realise that you are not actually the home secretary don't you? Just because the shitstirrer above assumed I specifically meant you, I didn't. Has the current home secretary actually commented on this case yet?
Also, yes race, class and gender will add to the dynamics in how this person is treated, talked about here and in the press. Just like I suspect are at work in the way you keep trying to insult me with the 'race card Rita' nonsense, when other posters here are in agreement with the racism inherent with how this has been applied yet you don't seek to demean them in any way.
FabricLiveBaby!
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There were 528 posts on the Jihadi Bride Shamina Begum thread within the first 24 hours of the thread being posted. I predict that this one, and Jihadi Jack himself will not emote people quite as much.
Yes I know it's the weekend and people may well be doing personal stuff rather than trying to avoid work, but still. Let's hope that we at least see some consistency from 'I'm alright Javid' the home secretary on this one eh?
Yeah, I was thinking of the sexist aspect of the UK media personally. Like a woman giving birth to 3 boys after being indoctrinated into a religion, brainwashed and put into Sex slavery at 15 - KEEP THE BITCH OUT.
White English dude converting to Islam, fucking off at 18, past the voting age, taking up arms, taking a "wife": crickets.
dylanredefined
Not a house elf a tiger
TBH after the shit, Daesh pulled, I'm surprised any were taken as a prisoner. I'm sure the Kurds would be happily rid of them. Taking them off the hands of the Kurds as a favour to the Kurds would be the only reason to bring them back.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
He's almost a national hero.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Her post is a thinly veiled pop at me "I'm alright Javid" though she attempts to conceal this by pretending she's addressing the HS.
For the record, my position on JJ is that if possible he should have his UK citizenship revoked, tried by the Syrians or Iraqis, and if found guilty (
Mate. I don't know if you've forgotten but there was a pretty disgusting misogynist rant on the thread and someone got banned from it. It is possible it wasn't about you. Charmless as you are obviously.
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Plastic Paddy
Yeah, righto.
I got 3 pms drawing my attention to your post as a call out. I wouldn't have seen this thread otherwise as the OP and I are on mutual ignore.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
Stop saying 'the kurds'. People like this are a bonus. Iraqi/jordanian/afghan etc not so much. They get you no leverage or coverage. These ones casn be used.
FabricLiveBaby!
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Nah, and it's not particularly a post about this forum. More like the media and public reaction.
To quote Ronan Keating:
"You say it best when you say nothing at all".
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Plastic Paddy
Aye, but RCR didn't direct all her abuse at that person did she?
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Well, he’s even got a tabloid nickname. He’s been headline fodder for years. We can’t really say there’s been no interest in his case. He’s a proper tabloid bête noir.
butchersapron
Bring back hanging
OK. The quiet racist sexist background is that white men expect ISIS fighters to be white men so shape their norms around that. That's how it becomes just 'normaL'.
Treacle Toes
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Yeah, righto.
I got 3 pms drawing my attention to your post as a call out. I wouldn't have seen this thread otherwise as the OP and I are on mutual ignore.
3 shitstirring PMS of support, how lovely! Mutual ignore eh? Yet I can read all the posts you made this morning. Fancy that.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
From memory I think she joined the thread later, and everyone was forced to have a go at that person - eventually, in some cases, after defending them initially.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
There’s a video linked to in the ed’s OP.
SpackleFrog
Smash showy bell-bottom pants and sporty haircuts
Plus you're just not quite as angry at him, are you?
FabricLiveBaby!
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Full disclosure. Jack is the son of a friend of a very close friend, and also the childhood friend of her son, who is like a brother from another mother to me (he's 10ish years younger than me) .
His mum and dad (Jack's) seem to genuinely think he went out there to help with aid work. I'm sick of hearing stories about how innocent he is and endless petitions about his release appearing on my Facebook feed.
Crickets about Begun tho. And these are labour supporting leftists.
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Plastic Paddy
Making a dick of yourself again by accusing another poster of dishonesty? Bit of an MO of yours isn't it?
If you are on MI (enforced by a mod) with someone, you do not see their threads. They do not appear on the lists.
Treacle Toes
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What you don't mean that there were actually people on that thread defending the obvious misogyny that was being posted who then had to concede that it was OBVIOUS.
Bit like the concerns about racism being raised I think and the way that certain people are seeking to stick their heads in the sand and throw insults dogwhistle insults like RCR about...that is unless it's being expressed by one of their fellow board mate...then it's okay.
Treacle Toes
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When people are being dishonest yes. So no, i'm not intimidated by you, the lies you tell for mates, your defense of other board mates that cross the line of offensiveness/trolling, nor your attempts to demean and insult me about things you simply don't actually care about.
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Plastic Paddy
Oh, the irony.
Yet again after an obviously clear explanation is given to you, you still hold your bullshit position. You're a fucking joke.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Yeh, only it's not Ronan Keating you're quoting (his song famously a cover) it's originally sung by keith whitley while it's a song by paul overstreet and don schlitz. To paraphrase the rolling stones, it's the song not the singer
likesfish
You can't park here sir
nobody's claiming this piece of shits a victim anyone who returns from syria should be watched like a hawk although in a kinder more gentle world they could head to Catterick to be used as bayonet practice
Sorry, but bollocks.
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
I would be i retested to know why the Home Office only starts thinking about stripping jihadis of the UK citizenship when they are on the cusp of coming back?
Why wasn't Begum stripped of her UK nationality 21 days after her 18th birthday, why wasn't this bloke stripped of his UK citizenship as soon as it became clear where he'd gone?
Now it's a race with the Canadians as to who can get the paperwork done first. It's just massive incompetence...
I'd happily see him strung up from a lamppost in whatever place is unfortunate enough to find his baleful presence among them - I don't think he has any rights to be allowed in the UK or that the UK has any obligations towards him - I am however persuadable about what obligations the UK has towards wherever he's imposed himself upon.
If someone isn't going to slot him or throw him down a hole so deep that he starves to death before he hits the ground - and the Canadians have got their paperwork done before the Home Office - then I have no problem with him and his friends spending the rest of their lives on an uninhabited rock in the South Sandwich Islands, but not to set foot in the UK.
No way, no how, no chance.
Why wasn't Begum stripped of her UK nationality 21 days after her 18th birthday, why wasn't this bloke stripped of his UK citizenship as soon as it became clear where he'd gone?
Now it's a race with the Canadians as to who can get the paperwork done first. It's just massive incompetence...
I'd happily see him strung up from a lamppost in whatever place is unfortunate enough to find his baleful presence among them - I don't think he has any rights to be allowed in the UK or that the UK has any obligations towards him - I am however persuadable about what obligations the UK has towards wherever he's imposed himself upon.
If someone isn't going to slot him or throw him down a hole so deep that he starves to death before he hits the ground - and the Canadians have got their paperwork done before the Home Office - then I have no problem with him and his friends spending the rest of their lives on an uninhabited rock in the South Sandwich Islands, but not to set foot in the UK.
No way, no how, no chance.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Couple of people have said RCR. What is RCR?
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