Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[mauvais]

Because?

It's cross-thread, it's personal, it can be shared in a context-free fashion outside this site, it's immutable and it's weird. And secondary to that, you've included my post in it.

 

[Pickman's model]

Going on a David icke platform to defend the right to not have children vaccinated. Perfectly normal

Going on a david icke platform at all is fucking weird imo

 

[Shechemite]

Ah. So you mean the ‘graves being vandalised LOLS’ screenshot?

It's cross-thread, it's personal, it can be shared in a context-free fashion outside this site, it's immutable and it's weird. And secondary to that, you've included my post in it.

 

[mauvais]

Ah. So you mean the ‘graves being vandalised LOLS’ screenshot?

Yes, sorry, I see it was ambiguous.

 

[Shechemite]

Yes, sorry, I see it was ambiguous.

I’ll edit out your name. I currently trying to find my local hospital after my CPN refused to support me to be admitted voluntarily. I’ll be sectioned soon. Great.

 

[mauvais]

My name's not on there so not required. I'm just suggesting that it's an approach that's not going to go down very well. There is reason to it: we have had posters that have shared this kind of stuff on Twitter etc attempting to make U75 and its posters look bad.

 

[Shechemite]

My name's not on there so not required. I'm just suggesting that it's an approach that's not going to go down very well. There is reason to it: we have had posters that have shared this kind of stuff on Twitter etc attempting to make U75 and its posters look bad.

I have no intention of sharing to twitter, but I couldn’t give a damn about people who laugh at the stuff I screenshotted ‘looking bad’.

But yes, it doesnt look good

 

[andysays]

I currently trying to find my local hospital after my CPN refused to support me to be admitted voluntarily. I’ll be sectioned soon. Great.

I hope you get the help you feel you need, but I don't think it's a great idea to bring your current mental health issues into this thread in the way you're doing.

It also appears to me as an outsider that your intense focus on the issue of antisemitism within the LP and the wider left might well be contributing to your current state and you might be better off easing off on it, even if only temporarily.

 

[two sheds]

Labour has looked into 673 cases of alleged antisemitism, figures show

Eta

Formby said the party had previously been of the view that disciplinary statistics should remain confidential because of how they could be “misinterpreted or misused for other purposes by the party’s political rivals”.

However, she said that because of the “importance of rebuilding trust with Jewish communities” she had pushed NEC officers to agree to the release of the data.

The data also indicates a large number of complaints – more than 400 in total – about non-Labour members.

Formby said she rejected claims from some quarters that antisemitism allegations were a smear. “I have seen hard evidence of it and that is why I have been so determined to do whatever is possible to eliminate it from the party,” she said. “It is also the reason why I made it a priority to implement robust procedures to deal with it whenever it is identified.”

 

[Shechemite]

I hope you get the help you feel you need, but I don't think it's a great idea to bring your current mental health issues into this thread in the way you're doing.

It also appears to me as an outsider that your intense focus on the issue of antisemitism within the LP and the wider left might well be contributing to your current state and you might be better off easing off on it, even if only temporarily.

I ‘brought it in’ to explain why I might not be able to edit the post immediately.

My focus on the issue is due to AS (as well as loads of other shite - including Ickean poison) has a lot of currency within MH activism

 

[Shechemite]

There isn’t really a way of avoiding all manner of hatred and conspiracism if you are politically active and have MH problems.

 

[NoXion]

Labour has looked into 673 cases of alleged antisemitism, figures show

Eta

Clearly, absolutely nothing is being done.

 

[danny la rouge]

Look after yourself MadeInBedlam Hope things work out, and you get the support you need.

 

[Shechemite]

There isn’t really a way of avoiding all manner of hatred and conspiracism if you are politically active and have MH problems.

And to be clear - it’s not just antisemtism: antivaxxers, Yaxley-Lennon supporters, Scientologists, ‘transgender conspiracy’ types. All manner of scum.

None of this scumbags should be afforded any tolerance. And now it comes to light that a memenbr of the ‘socialist HEALTH association’ is appearing on a David Icke platform.

 

[two sheds]

From above: "The data also indicates a large number of complaints – more than 400 in total – about non-Labour members."

Interesting that they'd been reported to Labour as (presumably) supposed Labour members?

 

[Pickman's model]

Clearly, absolutely nothing is being done.

They got rid of gerry downing, which can't be bad

 

[Shechemite]

Clearly, absolutely nothing is being done.

Do you think many outside of Labour Left/pro labour left have the same take as you?

 

[Pickman's model]

Do you think many outside of Labour Left/pro labour left have the same take as you?

Not if they read the mail

 

[Shechemite]

Not if they read the mail

Or pretty much any other newspaper

 

[belboid]

From above: "The data also indicates a large number of complaints – more than 400 in total – about non-Labour members."

Interesting that they'd been reported to Labour as (presumably) supposed Labour members?

Yes, that indicates quite clearly that this is just a trawl of groups that say they're Corbyn supporters, a fishing exercise going back years. Most of those that have gone forward seem to be either one or two dodgy (conspiraloon linking) posts, or just being an excessively argumentative twat (ie, the reason I stay off twitter). 300 people, under 30%, suspended or investigated for going further than that. That's less than 1/2 a member per constituency. Were they an organised grouping, 300 would be fair number, but they're disparate individuals. Good riddance to them, but I don't see that as Labour being riddled with anti-semitism. Certainly not as compared to any other organisation of similar size.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Going on a david icke platform at all is fucking weird imo

From about 18 mins in:


Corbyn is the reason they're in Labour and they will be around until he's gone.

 

[Supine]

Looks like Corbyn has pissed of Starmer by "forgetting" to include a paragraph about supporting a second ref in his letter to May

Corbyn’s team say he FORGOT to threaten a People’s Vote in letter to May

 

[Shechemite]

From about 18 mins in:


Corbyn is the reason they're in Labour and they will be around until he's gone.

Quite. And those who make noise about antisemites ‘only’ being corbyn suporters not (apparently) LP members kind of misses the point.

Racists are atttacted to the corbyn project.

 

[two sheds]

Quite. And those who make noise about antisemites ‘only’ being corbyn suporters not (apparently) LP members kind of misses the point.

Racists are atttacted to the corbyn project.

Why specifically corbyn? You're right that some racists are attracted to him. And he's come out in support of the Palestinians and there's a danger of anti-Israeli government invective spilling over into antisemitic abuse. But why not the tories, too? There are anti-semites there - not just corbyn.

 

[killer b]

Corbyn is the reason they're in Labour and they will be around until he's gone.

Is this true? I know (of) a few people who are under investigation and they've been members for decades.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Why specifically corbyn? You're right that some racists are attracted to him. And he's come out in support of the Palestinians and there's a danger of anti-Israeli government invective spilling over into antisemitic abuse. But why not the tories, too? There are anti-semites there - not just corbyn.

Because he's the leader of the party and has mixed with this kind of people for a long time and they have followed him into Labour.

 

[Shechemite]

Why specifically corbyn? You're right that some racists are attracted to him. And he's come out in support of the Palestinians and there's a danger of anti-Israeli government invective spilling over into antisemitic abuse. But why not the tories, too? There are anti-semites there - not just corbyn.

What’s the title of this thread again?

 

[sleaterkinney]

Is this true? I know (of) a few people who are under investigation and they've been members for decades.

I can't argue on specific people, but I do think he has attracted them in.

 

[killer b]

I can't argue on specific people, but I do think he has attracted them in.

Your post was about Dr Alex Scott-Samuel - he's been a member for 40 years.

This isn't a Corbyn thing, it's been there all along.

 

[Shechemite]

Your post was about Dr Alex Scott-Samuel - he's been a member for 40 years.

This isn't a Corbyn thing, it's been there all along.

Has David duke? Or the (apparently) non-members on the batshit ‘corbyn is our saviour’ FB groups?