Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[littlebabyjesus]

Not nobody, not even the Great Dictator himself, has suggested banning workmates from socialising. Part of the reason for commenting on it is because people ask why women don't get promoted as often. Well, this is one of the reasons. It's simple acknowledgement.

However, while bans on socialising would be counterproductive, it would be beneficial for everybody if socialising organised by the employers were reduced. In some workplaces Friday night drinks are practically obligatory - for example, if you don't go you won't even hear about a new project coming up that would help you in future promotions. Anyone claiming this sort of thing doesn't happen is either lying or very stupid.

Yeah. Bosses could definitely help in this matter by making a point of not announcing shit at drinkies.

 

[Pickman's model]

Functional nipples?
Right.

Yeh
That's the least of lbj's problems, liberalism a rather larger issue

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Functional nipples?
Right.

Yes. It's not nothing. Of course men can look after children too, but the idea that mothers and fathers are biologically equal in the matter is just wrong.

 

[bluescreen]

Yes. It's not nothing. Of course men can look after children too, but the idea that mothers and fathers are biologically equal in the matter is just wrong.

Right. Just tell that to all the women who don't breastfeed. There are quite a lot of them.

 

[Pickman's model]

But it would be good if the menfolk didn't feel stupid for helping out too (not just because of man pressure), because that is how it sometimes feels like.

To you

 

[Vintage Paw]

Just to be clear that it was skyscraper I was replying to and I don't think you mean him as someone who's usually anti-woman.

It was general venom at the usual suspects.

 

[coley]

And this is what the leader of the opposition chooses to address in the circumstances...

Nothing on Brexit, nothing on energy policy, nothing about actually opposing the government.

Way to set the agenda Jezza...

It grinds me teeth to say it, but I actually agree with you.

 

[Sprocket.]

Jezza will remain quiet until he wins the election and then the late night knock on the door and those carrying the large black bin liners will be about.

 

[timeforanother]

To you

Yes, to me. I think it is fair to generalise somewhat. Have you anything to offer of your personal experiences?

 

[coley]

One statement out of a speech and the media pick it up and you pick on it to pretend it's important. He mentioned cuts affecting women and womens' rape crisis centres are they unimportant?
Your statement above that he said "nothing on opposing the government" was actually a lie wasn't it.



He mentioned it in passing. You truly are absurd, yes.

Hate to agree with the geezer but Corbyn should know the 'rules of engagement' by now, he should have known this one comment would overshadow, and take precedence over the general substance of his main points

 

[Mr.Bishie]

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[timeforanother]

I think our Mr C may be more combative after facing down the gits, when he wins again.

 

[bluescreen]

DrRingDing do you have some insight you'd like to share?

 

[DrRingDing]

I didnt think this thread could get much worse.

 

[DrRingDing]

DrRingDing do you have some insight you'd like to share?

I've got terrible wind after eating some tasty bean thing.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I didnt think this thread could get much worse.

You've been here long enough to know that ain't true.

 

[bluescreen]

 

[Pickman's model]

Yes, to me. I think it is fair to generalise somewhat. Have you anything to offer of your personal experiences?

anything more, you mean

 

[bluescreen]

I didnt think this thread could get much worse.

Right, the feminists have been dominating it too long. Back to normal service.

 

[coley]

I've worked in a city.

I haven't, worked and was. usually too knackered, ( and too hard up) to even contemplate after work 'drinky poos'
Obliviously MC and even UMC, that's sorted that definition out.

 

[coley]

Chances are that that older man is the sad, ageing partner with a booze problem, a wife that they don't want to go home to and zero influence among the wider partnership, in my experience.

Experience? or a recent look in the mirror? Or both?

 

[bluescreen]

That whole drinky poos culture is shit. It's so ingrained we (I) hardly even notice what shit it is. I'm well out of it now but wish I had recognised it at the time for the wheedling shit it is.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

I've had a good laugh at workplaces with a big drinks culture.

 

[coley]

Why cannot men be as good as women at looking after small children?

Good question, looking forward to the answers

 

[bluescreen]

Good question, looking forward to the answers

Rhetorical question. I reckon they can.
E2A, in my experience, they can.

 

[DrRingDing]

It excludes a lot of people. Going for a curry is more inclusive and less damaging.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

It excludes a lot of people. Going for a curry is more inclusive and less damaging.

Depends where you work. I can think of a couple of places where everyone's been a drinker without exception.

While I agree with everything scifisam's said on this, the idea that there is something wrong with having some drinks with colleagues after work is in danger of becoming pretty puritanical. That's not the solution to the problem. If only it were so easy, tbh.

 

[Wilf]

The idea of drinking anywhere near your boss - or any of the wannabe bosses - is repellent.

 

[bluescreen]

It excludes a lot of people. Going for a curry is more inclusive and less damaging.

Going for a curry excludes me. I can't digest strong spices. (OK, I have to settle for the pasanda. )
And no, drinks can't ever be inclusive. But is there actually a problem that needs solving by bonding after work? In the far-off days that we could all do it thoughtlessly, it was great, but is it actually necessary?

 

[DrRingDing]

Depends where you work. I can think of a couple of places where everyone's been a drinker without exception.

That's a insensitive attitude to take. A lot of people suffer from drinking....and the people around them. It's problematic on a number of levels.

There's serious pressure to join in work drinks and some people may go along due to this pressure.

Historically I've been a 'real ale enthusiast' but i also recognise the harm.