Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Idaho]

Is a labour leadership candidate sharing things to facebook labour members that he doesn't believe 'the publicly acceptable discourse'? I think not. Is 'the publicly acceptable discourse' being able to trip up a dishonest labour leadership candidate? I rather hoped it was a bit more than that. But oh well, crack on.

You are right that ultimately it's all bollocks. However there is something to be said for shifting the political narrative leftwards from "we're all thatcherites now".

 

[DownwardDog]

new information has reached me forcing a rethink of the route of the tony clifff memorial canal on south georgia

they will now instead be mining on main island in the willis islands group off the northwest tip of south georgia
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Are you finding these amazingly intricate fantasies of violence and repression helpful?

 

[butchersapron]

You are right that ultimately it's all bollocks. However there is something to be said for shifting the political narrative leftwards from "we're all thatcherites now".

I'm questioning if a labour leadership candidate sending lies to labour members is actually shifting the overton window. Because it's not really is it? Where the public element for starters? Then, where is the evidence that this (whatever it is) is becoming a start point for actual extra-party public discourse?

 

[Wilf]

Huffington Post have REVEALED why some of you have been BANNED from voting. You're all way too abusive.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57c85b1ee4b01e35922a55a0

“I would cut Tony Blair’s eyes out and set him on fire the murdering cunt. 1 million deaths on his hands. Fuck him.”

"Blairite bellend"

 

[Idaho]

I'm questioning if a labour leadership candidate sending lies to labour members is actually shifting the overton window. Because it's not really is it?

Do brexit campaigners sharing immigration scare stuff on Facebook make a difference?

 

[butchersapron]

Do brexit campaigners sharing immigration scare stuff on Facebook make a difference?

Is that a good comparison do you think? What would be the differences?

 

[Pickman's model]

Are you finding these amazingly intricate fantasies of violence and repression helpful?

Prior Planning Prevents Pisspoor Performance. you seem to be more a man who likes to do things off the wrist.

 

[Idaho]

Is that a good comparison do you think? What would be the differences?

It's a far from perfect comparison. But they are both examples of "now publicly acceptable" political statements - that weren't previously.

 

[butchersapron]

It's a far from perfect comparison. But they are both examples of "now publicly acceptable" political statements - that weren't previously.

One is made on a semi-closed public platform, one is made on a semi-closed public platform to a closed group.

 

[Sprocket.]

Are you finding these amazingly intricate fantasies of violence and repression helpful?

I would think they are just a miner diversion.

 

[treelover]

You are right that ultimately it's all bollocks. However there is something to be said for shifting the political narrative leftwards from "we're all thatcherites now".

Gramsci's 'commonsense', hegemony and all that

Overton window, even.

 

[billy_bob]

I would think they are just a miner diversion.

The steelworkers are probably enjoying them too.

 

[ViolentPanda]

Strangely I recently met someone who was one of his guards at Spandau prison back in the '70's. Apparently he was one of the most obnoxious unpleasant people he had ever met, so perhaps not. /derail

The guard was the most obnoxious person Hess had ever met?

Must have been Sasaferrato

 

[DotCommunist]

I have been thinking about what type of jokes Rudolph Hess might have told but I have found it very hard to come to any conclusion.

oh I'm sure he had a wealth of anti semetic jokes to tell

 

[teqniq]

The guard was the most obnoxious person Hess had ever met?

Must have been Sasaferrato

Sorry I think I can see how you misread that, no Hess.

 

[Pickman's model]

Gramsci's 'commonsense', hegemony and all that

Overton window, even.

common sense paine

 

[Hocus Eye.]

oh I'm sure he had a wealth of anti semetic jokes to tell

I am sure you mean anti-semitic. Anti-semetic would be something to to cure feeling sick, as in being emetic.

 

[Pickman's model]

I am sure you mean anti-semitic. Anti-semetic would be something to to cure feeling sick, as in being emetic.

or emetic jokes, one that would make you chuck

 

[bi0boy]

Jeremy Corbyn: After-work drinks discriminate against mothers

 

[billy_bob]

or emetic jokes, one that would make you chuck

Or anti-sematic jokes - those which defy meaning.

 

[DotCommunist]

I should have just gone with 'racist jokes'. I know how to spell it and we can be sure he had a few about slavs and gypsies as well

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Or anti-sematic jokes - those which defy meaning.

Or more accurately ones that do not act as a warning of danger.

 

[Wilf]

An Englishman, an Irish man and a German walk into a war crimes tribunal...

 

[skyscraper101]

Jeremy Corbyn: After-work drinks discriminate against mothers

According to Mr Corbyn an after-work drinks culture "benefits men who don't feel the need to be at home looking after their children and it discriminates against women who will want to, obviously, look after the children that they have got"

What's with all the sweeping generalisations about "men" and "women" and won't somebody think of the children. Piss off mate.

 

[billy_bob]

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[killer b]

He's right though.

 

[Diamond]

Jeremy Corbyn: After-work drinks discriminate against mothers

Where do they find this nonsense...?

 

[Diamond]

And this is what the leader of the opposition chooses to address in the circumstances...

Nothing on Brexit, nothing on energy policy, nothing about actually opposing the government.

Way to set the agenda Jezza...

 

[frogwoman]

You are right that ultimately it's all bollocks. However there is something to be said for shifting the political narrative leftwards from "we're all thatcherites now".

Belushi (RIP) said he spent the whole of 1997 telling people blair was more left-wing than he appeared.

 

[Pickman's model]

And this is what the leader of the opposition chooses to address in the circumstances...

Nothing on Brexit, nothing on energy policy, nothing about actually opposing the government.

Way to set the agenda Jezza...

this is what the media *chose to report*. do you not understand that the media report things the way they want, not the way you want or indeed the way the people being reported on would like?