Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[littlebabyjesus]

At risk of extending the rail diversion...

It is very very very long overdue for trains to, by law if necessary, be forced to allow any passenger to sit in 1st class if there are no other seats available. It's an ongoing disgrace that people are forced to stand while there are empty seats.

 

[scifisam]

Live by the line they are going to trial double deckers on Waterloo- Basingtoke. At present a lot of outbound trains split at Woking to reduce the congestion to Waterloo and Clapham. The track round London terminuses is v.busy

That's interesting - hope it works. I could see maybe some double-deckers working to suburban stations and then people transferring to an ordinary train. However, it would take an awful lot longer than just running more trains or making sure you run ones that cover the whole platform - it's true, they often don't.

 

[tim]

Do you think all these critics genuinely believe their own shit? That Corbyn really is a racist, misogynistic, Trotskyite Commie-Nazi liar, ISIS supporting, IRA loving, anti-semitic fraud, peace loving hippy- pacifist bully, allotment growing danger to Britain? I mean at the very least he's straddling a lot of ideologies there- it's quite an impressive achievement.

The Liberals seemed to manage to fuse most of the above for decades. Corbyn, of course, also goes for hat old Liberal Party beard and sandals look

 

[DotCommunist]

labour right believe none of it. Its total cyniscm and bad faith politicking.

 

[tim]

From here on in the news is going to get very dull if it moves to focus on the reveal that "straight after the photo was taken, they put the paint brush down without actually painting any of it." The worst it makes him is a politiciany as the rest of them.
Then it goes on to say he smeared Virgin trains " a respected private company with a global reputation" - that just about works, but only if they advertise Virgin Trains as better than the Mumbai rush hour.

At least Branson's trains are safer than his sky rockets

 

[tim]

Are you a shit journalist by trade by any chance?

No a shit lawyer

 

[8den]

Surprisingly balance from C4 news report, finishing with "whats the big deal?"

 

[teqniq]

Perhaps it has belatedly dawned on them exactly how stupid it makes them look.

 

[DotCommunist]

4s not any good but it doesn't do slavish devotion to the cycle quite like the beeb

 

[8den]

At risk of extending the rail diversion...

It is very very very long overdue for trains to, by law if necessary, be forced to allow any passenger to sit in 1st class if there are no other seats available. It's an ongoing disgrace that people are forced to stand while there are empty seats.

A pregnant friend coming into central London on the train, came into work in near tears often, because southern rail staff refused to allow her to sit in first class seats. Despite the fact that pregnant women are allowed to sit in first class if no other seats are available.

Diamond' "why didn't' they give the 1st class seats to Corbyn" smacks of that public school, forelock tucking, suggesting that people "above your station" should be allowed better service is a perfect example of the British class system at work.

 

[Vintage Paw]

quite, how many times have you been waiting on a crowded platform and a two-carriage train (already full) turns up?

You regularly just get the one carriage between here (Stoke-on-Trent) and Derby. Thankfully I don't have to travel that much anymore (also, sadly I don't have to travel that much anymore, since my relatives are all dead in that direction). But when I did, it was absolutely crucial you learn where the doors stop.

 

[teqniq]

quite, how many times have you been waiting on a crowded platform and a two-carriage train (already full) turns up?

The franchise operators do not own the rolling stock, they have to lease it. For more info see here. This goes some way to explaining their reluctance to have what we, the travellers would consider a reasonable number of carriages in any given train. This is not meant to excuse the whole setup in any way whatsoever.

 

[Diamond]

A pregnant friend coming into central London on the train, came into work in near tears often, because southern rail staff refused to allow her to sit in first class seats. Despite the fact that pregnant women are allowed to sit in first class if no other seats are available.

Diamond' "why didn't' they give the 1st class seats to Corbyn" smacks of that public school, forelock tucking, suggesting that people "above your station" should be allowed better service is a perfect example of the British class system at work.

 

[DotCommunist]

those that scheme see only schemes tbf

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Is it just me that's a bit disturbed by Virgin distributing CCTV footage (supposedly for "safety and security" according to them) for political reasons? Should I be concerned that if I tweet something nasty about rail franchises now there'll be a video of me scratching my arse in my replies? Do I have to enlist other passengers to take photos to prove that I was just checking how much change was in my back pocket?

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Is it just me that's a bit disturbed by Virgin distributing CCTV footage (supposedly for "safety and security" according to them) for political reasons? Should I be concerned that if I tweet something nasty about rail franchises now there'll be a video of me scratching my arse in my replies? Do I have to enlist other passengers to take photos to prove that I was just checking how much change was in my back pocket?

Are there not legal restrictions on how this stuff can be used? I'm a bit surprised if there aren't.

Strikes me as a case of something likely to be a massive backfire. Virgin setting themselves up as victims? Really? Even tory commuters won't be buying that.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Are there not legal restrictions on how this stuff can be used? I'm a bit surprised if there aren't.

Strikes me as a case of something likely to be a massive backfire. Virgin setting themselves up as victims? Really? Even tory commuters won't be buying that.

There might well be a DPA issue - CCTV footage is personal data, and it's explicitly stated that it's collected for safety and security purposes (according to some Virgin franchise PDF I read today). Nobody has given consent for it to be used to boost the circulation figures of the Telegraph.

Obviously JC would look petty going for that but it's pretty unpleasant.

 

[brogdale]

Is it just me that's a bit disturbed by Virgin distributing CCTV footage (supposedly for "safety and security" according to them) for political reasons? Should I be concerned that if I tweet something nasty about rail franchises now there'll be a video of me scratching my arse in my replies? Do I have to enlist other passengers to take photos to prove that I was just checking how much change was in my back pocket?

Must have been 'legal reasons'; can't see any other justification from their bullet points...

We reserve the right to withhold information where permissible by the Data Protection Act and we will only retain CCTV images for a reasonable period or as long as is required by law. In certain circumstances we may need to disclose CCTV images for legal reasons. When this is done there is a requirement for the organisation that has received the images to adhere to the Data Protection Act.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Obviously JC would look petty going for that but it's pretty unpleasant.

Yep, as ever, his best response is to rise above it. tbh he does seem very good at that. I'd have exploded several times by now after the shit of the last year.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Must have been 'legal reasons'; can't see any other justification from their bullet points...

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No chance that disclosure was ordered by a court there, we'd have heard about that.

 

[brogdale]

No chance that disclosure was ordered by a court there, we'd have heard about that.

Exactly.
They appear to have breached their own policy (as published). The twats.

 

[two sheds]

perhaps they're suing him for defamation

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Exactly.
They appear to have breached their own policy (as published). The twats.

Corbyn getting someone else to calmly point this out might be nice.

 

[steveo87]

Ultimately, I don't think it does anything to lessen the general feeling that OS is just a contemptible cunt.

At the core of it the story is 'Man deliberately sat on the floor'

 

[littlebabyjesus]

perhaps they're suing him for defamation

All they do is draw attention to the racket that is private rail and the need for them to have it taken off them.

In the end it's just an August slow-news story, but Virgin have done themselves no favours.

 

[DotCommunist]

I can't decide if this is more trivial than bowgate or not. On the one hand his insufficient depth of bow was at a formal occasion. On the other hand this shit is so trivial you'd struggle to get it to be a contender. Fucking silly season.

 

[FridgeMagnet]

Exactly.
They appear to have breached their own policy (as published). The twats.

Strangely enough the Guardian, which has a well-populated tag for data protection, doesn't mention this aspect at all.

 

[ferrelhadley]

Ryan Lochte levels of busted lying to the public.

Only the usual dim clowns are left defending him, or trying to deflect from another cluster fuck. They have really sunk to near climate change denier levels of braying moral certainty mixed with fact free stupidity.

Still his supporters and his brother will have lots to talk about then. Perhaps he can show them his super computer that predicts earthquakes from the Sun Spots.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Ryan Lochte levels of busted lying to the public.

Only the usual dim clowns are left defending him, or trying to deflect from another cluster fuck. They have really sunk to near climate change denier levels of braying moral certainty mixed with fact free stupidity.

Still his supporters and his brother will have lots to talk about then. Perhaps he can show them his super computer that predicts earthquakes from the Sun Spots.

That's incoherent, even by your standards.

wtf has his brother got to do with it?

You do know he doesn't agree with his brother over climate change, don't you?

 

[inva]

Ryan Lochte levels of busted lying to the public.

Only the usual dim clowns are left defending him, or trying to deflect from another cluster fuck. They have really sunk to near climate change denier levels of braying moral certainty mixed with fact free stupidity.

Still his supporters and his brother will have lots to talk about then. Perhaps he can show them his super computer that predicts earthquakes from the Sun Spots.

have you lied to the public Jeremy?

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