Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[YouSir]

Anyone receive their ballot today?

Yep, well - email vote. Came late afternoon though so guessing they're still trickling out.

 

[wtfftw]

The voting page is up and says you can vote until Wednesday 21 September 2016 at 12:00 noon. Not sure if it's actually opened for voting yet.

I applied for a vote as a Labour Party Affiliated Supporter just over a month ago and I've had nothing but an email confirming my application since then.

Has anyone here actually been issued with the means to vote yet? Looks like you need a two part security code to vote online, but there way be other methods available

Nothing since?
no subject line, "Your vote in the Leadership election" and "About your ballot"?

 

[YouSir]

I'm hoping 60/40 for the result. No idea if that's stupidly optimistic or not but any less and they'll never stop whining. Not that they'll stop whining anyway but it's a nice round figure to slap them down from.

 

[Wilf]

The Guardian must have an attack-a-day pencilled in for the voting period. This time 'with racism thrown in'.
Ex-shadow minister accuses Jeremy Corbyn of discrimination

 

[Wilf]

I'm hoping 60/40 for the result. No idea if that's stupidly optimistic or not but any less and they'll never stop whining. Not that they'll stop whining anyway but it's a nice round figure to slap them down from.

No doubt the losing Smith will claim he had the 'support of a substantial number of Labour members'. I'd say if gets under 40% that gives the interviewer the green light to say 'are you fucking kidding?'

 

[brogdale]

I'm hoping 60/40 for the result. No idea if that's stupidly optimistic or not but any less and they'll never stop whining. Not that they'll stop whining anyway but it's a nice round figure to slap them down from.

50 : 50 is 'rounder'.

 

[DrRingDing]

I'm hoping 60/40 for the result. No idea if that's stupidly optimistic or not but any less and they'll never stop whining. Not that they'll stop whining anyway but it's a nice round figure to slap them down from.

The question is who controls the count? How is it monitored? I really wouldn't put it past certain interests to manipulate this.

 

[brogdale]

The Guardian must have an attack-a-day pencilled in for the voting period. This time 'with racism thrown in'.
Ex-shadow minister accuses Jeremy Corbyn of discrimination

Lordy, talk about desperation.

 

[Wilf]

The question is who controls the count? How is it monitored? I really wouldn't put it past certain interests to manipulate this.

I guessed at the Electoral Reform Society, but was wrong (at least they didn't do the last one). Presume it's done internally, with some kind of oversight from appointed verifiers/auditors? However beyond actual, unambiguous cheating - literally or metaphorically chucking votes in the bin - I'm not sure where the manipulation could come in. Dunno, is it an entirely electronic process? Of course the manipulation has been going on for a while in terms of stopping people actually having a vote.

 

[Wilf]

Lordy, talk about desperation.

Yeah, obviously need to say that you should take claims of institutional racism seriously, but I struggle to do so when they are stored up and used on the day the ballots go out. Also, didn't Blair forget who Aaargh was and that she was already a junior minister? Was that homophobia or misogyny?

 

[treelover]

I'm not sure but I hope they get that bloke who looks like an extra from Alien Nation in to do the compering again. I've never seen such impressive liver spots. Either way its too long away. This farce will be going on for time. And when corbyn wins again it'll just get more meltdowny

Not nice.

 

[killer b]

The question is who controls the count? How is it monitored? I really wouldn't put it past certain interests to manipulate this.

It's being overseen by Electoral Reform Services (essentially the election running arm of the Electoral Reform Society). I don't think you need to be concerned with tampering tbh.

 

[Brixton Hatter]

The Guardian must have an attack-a-day pencilled in for the voting period. This time 'with racism thrown in'.
Ex-shadow minister accuses Jeremy Corbyn of discrimination

What a poor article. It even contradicts itself on whether she is actually a shadow minister or not.

 

[tangerinedream]

That would mean they win the election surely?

Edit: been discussed, ignore me.

 

[ruffneck23]

Just got my vote through email , voted Corbyn fwiw

 

[brogdale]

More than a whiff of desperation around some the stuff being flung around now...

 

[andysays]

Nothing since?
no subject line, "Your vote in the Leadership election" and "About your ballot"?

No, none of that. This is what they sent on 22 July

Thank you for applying to become a Labour Party Affiliated Supporter - it's great that you want to take part in deciding who leads the Labour Party. Shaping our party's future direction is both an opportunity and a responsibility - thank you for choosing to be part of it.

This email confirms that we have received your application, and will begin to process it, beginning with checking with your affiliated organisation that you're a member (and have been since 12 January 2016), and matching you to the electoral register.

As soon as your application has been processed, we'll be in touch again to confirm your Affiliated Supporter status.We'll also let you know the full timetable for this Leadership Election, how you can cast your vote and when you should expect to receive your ballot information.

For more information about the leadership election, please visit labour.org.uk/leadership Thank you again for wanting to be part of this important decision.

Best wishes, Iain McNicol
General Secretary of the Labour Party

and nothing since. If anyone has Iain's number, maybe I should give him a ring...

 

[andysays]

The question is who controls the count? How is it monitored? I really wouldn't put it past certain interests to manipulate this.

The website for voting appears to be run by the Electoral Reform Service, but maybe it's all an elaborate spoff to colect the names of Corbyn supporters

 

[FridgeMagnet]

I haven't got anything either - I expect they are staggering the emails. I wouldn't be worried yet.

 

[timeforanother]

I got mine today.

 

[butchersapron]

What a treat.

 

[brogdale]

What a treat.

Should damn well be, for 3 and half hours work on NMW.

 

[butchersapron]

Should damn well be, for 3 and half hours work on NMW.

It's ok, if you're a national treasure your kids gets jobs too. Oh hang on...

 

[19force8]

The Guardian must have an attack-a-day pencilled in for the voting period. This time 'with racism thrown in'.
Ex-shadow minister accuses Jeremy Corbyn of discrimination

Does anyone else find it rather pathetic that people on at least £90k (plus ekkies, etc) need their hand holding to this extent:

No one knew what he wanted us to do, no one was clear on what we should be doing.

Perhaps it's just the legacy of the Blair/Campbell (micro) managerial style.

 

[pseudonarcissus]

No, none of that. This is what they sent on 22 July






and nothing since. If anyone has Iain's number, maybe I should give him a ring...

I got a letter last week saying they want copies of two forms of identification. I'm not a trot entryist, don't care for Corbyn, and no longer care two hoots about Labour (excepting my MPand mayor). Why can't SNP stand in London?

 

[magneze]

Even if half the stories about Corbyn were true, they're now assumed false because of their relentlessness. Another awesome tactic by his opponents. Masterful.

 

[JimW]

Newsnight is having a round table about whether the media is biased against Corbyn

 

[Fez909]

Even if half the stories about Corbyn were true, they're now assumed false because of their relentlessness. Another awesome tactic by his opponents. Masterful.

I'm not sure that's true. Mud sticks, and some of the people flinging it have been on his side previously. I think this vote is going to be a lot closer than I would've guessed even a few weeks ago.

 

[andysays]

I got a letter last week saying they want copies of two forms of identification. I'm not a trot entryist, don't care for Corbyn, and no longer care two hoots about Labour (excepting my MPand mayor). Why can't SNP stand in London?

On what basis are you trying to get a vote? I'm a member of Unite, and as I understand it (based on the email and other stuff I've read) the LP simply check with Unite that I've been a member for more than 6 months and that I'm on the Electoral Register. There should be no problem with either of those, so we'll see.

If you're trying to sign up as a £25 registered supporter, it might be different, they might expect you to provide further proof of ID, but that seems a little over the top. It's almost like they don't want people to vote...

 

[brogdale]

Peak Guardian?

The hasty introduction in 2014 of the new election rules, giving every member an individual say in the leadership, changed one piece of a complicated interlocking system without considering its impact. The upshot is a democratic car crash. Somehow a situation has been created where a majority of MPs may not support the winning leadership candidate, but the new leader cannot become prime minister without MPs’ backing. At a single unintentional stroke the purpose of having a Labour party has been undermined.