crossthebreeze
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No, they whistleSignposts never chime
No, they whistleSignposts never chime
Or a refill
An IRA memorial, don't imagine PIRAs mentioned on it, though yer link won't lift?
Would love to have known what "auld Charlie" was actually thinking, realpolitik can be a real bastard.
As your link to it won't open I can't really comment, but given how the newly 'independent' Irish republicans went at each other hammer n tong after independence, then I imagine any sentiments expressed on said memorial are rather 'open to interpretation'It doesn't specifically mention anyone . It's a memorial to ALL those who were killed persuing Irish freedom by means of insurrection and insurgency. That would include PIRA as well as all the other manifestations of the IRA . Past and current . It's a ..politically embarassing..fact , whether you approve or not .
As your link to it won't open I can't really comment, but given how the newly 'independent' Irish republicans went at each other hammer n tong after independence, then I imagine any sentiments expressed on said memorial are rather 'open to interpretation'
Aye quite, but "I'm going to remember you had a hand in knocking off me uncle, make sure yer toast before I'm king, or I'll come looking"" as you're a British military intelligence operative my mum is your commander in chief . Well done getting your chaps to accept her glorious reign over you and surrender their guns to her commissioned officer representative, General de Chastelain . Top notch job . Couldn't have asked for more "
Something along those lines.
Basically JC is a terrorist supporting cunt, & Maam isn't, for doing exactly the same thing.
As your link to it won't open I can't really comment, but given how the newly 'independent' Irish republicans went at each other hammer n tong after independence, then I imagine any sentiments expressed on said memorial are rather 'open to interpretation'
Aye, but the 'reconciliation gestures' only happened after the IRA surrendered, got to give them some crumbs, I wouldn't, but peace is peace.Basically JC is a terrorist supporting cunt, & Maam isn't, for doing exactly the same thing.
It wasn't built until 1966 . We don't have full independence yet . Interpret that . Or imagine what you prefer. All the same to me.
But the memorial is what it is . A memorial to ALL who died in the cause of Irish freedom . In 1966 when it was built it was very much recognised by the southern state that full Irish freedom had not been achieved. no patriot is excluded from it. Very deliberately. There's no dates, no cut off points. Very deliberately .
Aye quite, but "I'm going to remember you had a hand in knocking off me uncle, make sure yer toast before I'm king, or I'll come looking"
Nice of the writer to actually make a little draft up of a tory election ad. It helpful for my imagination, who so often fail.
It wasn't built until 1966
Nowt further to discuss
I was wondering why you aren't on here as much as usual, the above explains it, pity, you were always worth a read." do you have an inconvenient wife ? Does she need a lift anywhere ?.....and I'm pretty sure if I took you round the corner, dropped my keks and stuck the royal arse out you'd profusely slobber all over it if asked "
Built in 66, does that offer a tiny insight?Why ? And can you explain how you've suddenly become such a fucking expert on IRA memorials in the past half hour ? Where does your incisive insight derive from ?
You've no idea what your talking about. In this instance I actually do .
Things I have learnt since joining the Labour Party:
1: 'Them' is far more popular than 'we'. 'They' need us, 'we' deserve power, 'they' don't understand 'we' do.
2: Those who have power, from councillors to local officials to MPs see no problems at all, all those who do are attacking them.
3: 'They' shouldn't be given a voice, because 'we' know what to do.
4: Polls are almighty, mostly because people view themselves as above those outside the party.
5: I can put up with an amazing amount of patronising when I need to.
6: The 'they' I see are really, really bad at dealing with people, which will be their arrogant downfall.
Still supporting Corbyn mind. The day he wins will be a happy one.
Aye, I'm seriously looking at joining the Greens, if I'm going to be politically pointless I'd rather be environmentally positiveSafe to say I'm at a low ebb in my party political experience.
have you made the mistake of attending party meetings?Safe to say I'm at a low ebb in my party political experience.
have you made the mistake of attending party meetings?
I don't think it matters which party you're in, the meetings always seem to make you come away feeling like that. I haven't been to a Green Party meeting in 7 months and I feel so much better for it.
Built in 66, does that offer a tiny insight?
I was wondering why you aren't on here as much as usual, the above explains it, pity, you were always worth a read.
"Ditch Corbyn or Lose Election"
Breaking, Observer will have a major article by Sadiq Khan in which he will say "Corbyn is a disastrous leader" and backs Smith.
Explaining his backing for Smith, who is the former shadow work and pensions secretary, Khan says: “On the big issues Owen and I have been on the same side of the argument, including opposing the Iraq war. Owen led and – more importantly – won our fight against the Tories’ unfair cuts to tax credits and disability allowances, which would have hurt the most disadvantaged people in our society.”
they don't like people upsetting their cosy clique that's used to running things and not having anyone question them too much.I've been to the meetings but in my experience people will seldom talk shite to your face, just online where they imagine they're anonymous. Not new to me either, been to Left stuff over the years, just never anything with this level of dripping disdain. Even if there's a sweary argument I'm used to thinking of people as comrades, these days I can see I'm the enemy to some.
I've been to the meetings but in my experience people will seldom talk shite to your face, just online where they imagine they're anonymous. Not new to me either, been to Left stuff over the years, just never anything with this level of dripping disdain. Even if there's a sweary argument I'm used to thinking of people as comrades, these days I can see I'm the enemy to some.
lol
None of which 'explains' why Khan nominated Corbyn a year ago.
That is proper dirty bullshitting about Owen's anti war stance. Filthly little toerag.