Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[coley]

Christ, this shytefest only benefits two groups, the lawyers and the Tories and the PLP must know this, what are the hoping to achieve?
Apart from ten years of well fed, lucrative, 'cosy opposition'?
The CLP should start the appropriate deselection processes ASP, they really have nothing to lose by doing so and plenty to gain in the long term.

 

[oryx]

Isn't today's decision likely to affect those who signed up to 'Saving Labour' (should be a derisory smiley) as well as Corbyn supporters? Probably a lot fewer of the former than the latter, though.

 

[coley]

Labour are in a right mess...worse than at any time in their history too...Corbyn is utterly useless but backed by a HUGE number of people who care about people agreeing with them more than making policy which shapes the country. Sad times...


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'Tory lite' policies you mean? Mebbes their is a growing number of ordinary people who see, if not Corbyn as PM, but his beliefs as a game changer?

 

[DrRingDing]

uh huh

I noticed some pages ago you said corbyn wasn't a socialist.

Socialism is a broad church and he's at the mild mannered, beardy beige, social democrat end but I'd still call him a socialist. Or have I missed something?

 

[DrRingDing]

Christ, this shytefest only benefits two groups, the lawyers and the Tories and the PLP must know this, what are the hoping to achieve?
Apart from ten years of well fed, lucrative, 'cosy opposition'?
The CLP should start the appropriate deselection processes ASP, they really have nothing to lose by doing so and plenty to gain in the long term.

The redrawn constituencies are going to announced in September....is that right?

...and the newly elected NEC takes over in October?

Is there any reason to wait longer for the reselections?

 

[Orang Utan]

I noticed some pages ago you said corbyn wasn't a socialist.

Socialism is a broad church and he's at the mild mannered, beardy beige, social democrat end but I'd still call him a socialist. Or have I missed something?

no, but i'm not sure what that has to do with the post you replied to!
though i can't see how a socialist could agree with the honours system

 

[DrRingDing]

no, but i'm not sure what that has to do with the post you replied to!
though i can't see how a socialist could agree with the honours system

Sticking someone in the lords is not the same as agreeing with the honours system is it?

 

[Orang Utan]

Sticking someone in the lords is not the same as agreeing with the honours system is it?

no, but it's on a scale that i still wouldn't expect a socialist to willingly position themselves.

 

[Vintage Paw]

My CLP voted Corbyn tonight. 2 spoiled papers, 4 votes for Smith, 45 or so for Corbyn. They voted for Cooper last time in a close vote.

 

[DrRingDing]

no, but it's on a scale that i still wouldn't expect a socialist to willingly position themselves.

So you think the correct thing for a socialist to do is allow the tories to pump the house of lords full with their choice of scrotes?

 

[DrRingDing]

My CLP voted Corbyn tonight. 2 spoiled papers, 4 votes for Smith, 45 or so for Corbyn. They voted for Cooper last time in a close vote.

That's quite funny. Have you punted that out on twitter?

 

[Orang Utan]

So you think the correct thing for a socialist to do is allow the tories to pump the house of lords full with their choice of scrotes?

i dunno. People are arguing that Corbyn is allowing the Tories to keep in power indefinitely just by being a mild social democrat.

 

[coley]

no, but i'm not sure what that has to do with the post you replied to!
though i can't see how a socialist could agree with the honours system

Until you can change the system, then unfortunately you have to ' hold yer nose' and work the system, or hand your opponents an unassailable advantage over your political views.
Or, end up like Thailand?

 

[Vintage Paw]

That's quite funny. Have you punted that out on twitter?

It's already on there, on the CLP Nominations twitter page. It was 40-4, not 45-4, my mistake. There were only a couple of votes in it last time for Cooper (with Corbyn second).

Tristram was not in attendance.

 

[DrRingDing]

i dunno. People are arguing that Corbyn is allowing the Tories to keep in power indefinitely just by being a mild social democrat.

Who are these 'people' what are their interests?

You know corbyn has been life long republican?

 

[coley]

i dunno. People are arguing that Corbyn is allowing the Tories to keep in power indefinitely just by being a mild social democrat.

Fair point, but what's the difference atween the the PLP and our present Govt? Its so slight it could
be measured on the thickness of a tab paper! ( Rizzlas, to you non Northern, unfortunate individuals
Ought be worth letting them slug it out in the hope that what emerges resembles a socialist WC representative party?

 

[Orang Utan]

Who are these 'people' what are their interests?

You know corbyn has been life long republican?

Of course they are Blairites, but still, it's just got me thinking - Corbyn has to dissemble even more than Blair to get power. Not that I should be surprised that it is impossible to get power without dishonesty

 

[coley]

Of course they are Blairites, but still, it's just got me thinking - Corbyn has to dissemble even more than Blair to get power. Not that I should be surprised that it is impossible to get power without dishonesty

Corbyn and the EU referendum have woken up a lot of people to the fact that their vote can actually make a difference, that's something that is scaring the Shyte out of the Murdoch dominated ( and their political lackeys) media.
They desperately want a return to the 'same old' as existed before the 23/6/16

 

[timeforanother]

My CLP voted Corbyn tonight. 2 spoiled papers, 4 votes for Smith, 45 or so for Corbyn. They voted for Cooper last time in a close vote.

My ward was busier than that!

 

[timeforanother]

It isn't about JC anymore. He is just the guy who shows we need honest politicians who stick to their word and offer a vote that counts for the average woman and man.

Bernie in the states is even less revolutionaty, but putting his supporters into office will change the world.

We need to bomb less countries, even if we make sure we can look after ourselves.

 

[two sheds]

or more than a century. LCS maybe shouldn't be taken as the point of origin. Deeper roots

LCS?

 

[emanymton]

My CLP voted Corbyn tonight. 2 spoiled papers, 4 votes for Smith, 45 or so for Corbyn. They voted for Cooper last time in a close vote.

I desperately want to know how you get 2 spoilt, and what was on them.

 

[Tankus]

Pretty poor Welsh valley response for Owen .....you would have thought ...being a pseudo local boyo and all that ....?

 

[Plumdaff]

Pretty poor Welsh valley response for Owen .....you would have thought ...being a pseudo local boyo and all that ....?

I doubt Barrybados is flocking to the cause, either. They do have those fancy coffees in the cafe on Barry Island so probably too elite for the message.

 

[butchersapron]

Who are these 'people' what are their interests?

You know corbyn has been life long republican?

Is this your shit way of saying you've joined the labour party?

 

[timeforanother]

Is this your shit way of saying you've joined the labour party?

Netflix and chill?

 

[DotCommunist]

LCS?

London Corresponding Society

 

[DotCommunist]

I was going to ask what the fucks up with Scotland being so pro-owen (prowen?) since they are supposedly more left wing up that way. Then I realised that Scottish labour fucked up so badly that they are now in third place behind the tories. Makes perfect sense now.

I'd never heard of Jim Murphy but he seemed like a bit of a twat so I asked our weepiper if he'd ever done a real days work in his life. 9 years in student politics then straight into labour politics. The wasteman.

 

[ska invita]

I'd never heard of Jim Murphy but he seemed like a bit of a twat so I asked our weepiper if he'd ever done a real days work in his life. 9 years in student politics then straight into labour politics. The wasteman.

tbf corbyn pretty much went straight into the Labour Party

 

[brogdale]

You've got to admire the brass neck of the party establishment...

The NEC applied the cut-off period in response to concerns from some in the party about new Labour members signing up solely to vote.

As opposed to the complete lack of concern about anybody willing to cough-up £25 solely to vote.

No wonder so many of the Blairite wing are selling this as a battle to defend the right of the NEC to govern on party matters, no matter how illogical, calculating or anti-democratic their decisions might be.
Draws you in, doesn't it?