Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Raheem]

I was just reading this telegraph article on the very same topic.

No welcome in these valleys for Labour

Interviewer: And Mr Blair, is he a Socialist?

Owen Smith: Yes

In fairness, what do you expect a Labour candidate to do when asked if their leader is a socialist? Say "No he's a fucking neoliberal war criminal"?

It wouldn't bother me that much what Owen Smith has done or said in the past if I felt he was credible now. It's totally dismal, though, that you have someone positioning themselves as Labour left and having to issue denials that they want to privatise the NHS. Emblematic of the mess Labour are in, really.

 

[Wilf]

In fairness, what do you expect a Labour candidate to do when asked if their leader is a socialist? Say "No he's a fucking neoliberal war criminal"?

It wouldn't bother me that much what Owen Smith has done or said in the past if I felt he was credible now. It's totally dismal, though, that you have someone positioning themselves as Labour left and having to issue denials that they want to privatise the NHS. Emblematic of the mess Labour are in, really.

My struggling broadband doesn't allow me to read the link, but in answer to your question - Blair, a socialist? - the obvious answer for someone presenting himself as 'just as left wing as Jeremy' would be No. If he can't even make that political/emotional breach with Blairism/neo-liberalism it says quite a lot about him.

 

[killer b]

My struggling broadband doesn't allow me to read the link, but in answer to your question - Blair, a socialist? - the obvious answer for someone presenting himself as 'just as left wing as Jeremy' would be No. If he can't even make that political/emotional breach with Blairism/neo-liberalism it says quite a lot about him.

that was in 2006, when Blair was still leader, and Smith had no plans to present himself as 'just as radical as Jeremy Corbyn' in a future leadership battle. still nonsense then, mind.

 

[free spirit]

My wife arrived home from the pub last night so pissed of with Tory voters going on about how "unelectable" Corbyn is that she was talking about signing up as a £25er and trying to persuade me to too

Cold light of morning dissuaded her but still...a snapshot of how this playing out in unexpected places/ways.

my dad's done that because he's disgusted at the media and PLP ripping into him.

First time in his life he's joined / registered with a political party.

Says he'll join properly if corbyn wins and go to meetings, dish out leaflets etc.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

my dad's done that because he's disgusted at the media and PLP ripping into him.

First time in his life he's joined / registered with a political party.

Says he'll join properly if corbyn wins and go to meetings, dish out leaflets etc.

A good friend's partner and step-daughter have registered as supporters for the same reasons. It's a funny old world!

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Mr.Bishie]

55,000 this morning -

@DMcCafferySKY NEW: Labour sources suggesting at least 100,000 people have registered as supporters to vote in #LabourLeadership. Full numbers later.

 

[YouSir]

55,000 this morning -

@DMcCafferySKY NEW: Labour sources suggesting at least 100,000 people have registered as supporters to vote in #LabourLeadership. Full numbers later.

The mobilized 'Save Labour' masses no doubt.

 

[killer b]

I read 4 million quid to the labour coffers, but haven't been able to find a source. That'd be 160000.

 

[inva]

The mobilized 'Save Labour' masses no doubt.

it was the words on everyone's lips at the supermarket earlier

 

[inva]

I read 4 million quid to the labour coffers, but haven't been able to find a source. That'd be 160000.

now they can spend it on investigating their new members and disqualifying them

 

[Mr.Bishie]

I read 4 million quid to the labour coffers, but haven't been able to find a source. That'd be 160000.

Dan Hodges is saying 150,000 too.

 

[J Ed]

I can't believe that many people are willing to pay £25 to vote in a Labour leadership election

 

[coley]

my dad's done that because he's disgusted at the media and PLP ripping into him.

First time in his life he's joined / registered with a political party.

Says he'll join properly if corbyn wins and go to meetings, dish out leaflets etc.

Same here, though the little green man in the queue is a bliddy slow walker!

 

[coley]

I can't believe that many people are willing to pay £25 to vote in a Labour leadership election

Coz it's disgusting the way the PLP is behaving, and trying to attract only those who are predisposed to voting for them by upping the ante to £25 is, I am hoping, going to backfire on them, big time.
Back to the little green man

 

[Vintage Paw]

I've seen the 150k figure too. That's a lot of people. And a lot of money.

 

[Cid]

Coz it's disgusting the way the PLP is behaving, and trying to attract only those who are predisposed to voting for them by upping the ante to £25 is, I am hoping, going to backfire on them, big time.
Back to the little green man

Er, if you're still trying to register you're too late.

 

[coley]

Er, if you're still trying to register you're too late.

No, I joined the queue before 1700.

 

[Pickman's model]

I've seen the 150k figure too. That's a lot of people. And a lot of money.

The Labour party establishment will piss it up against the wall

 

[Cid]

No, I joined the queue before 1700.

Ha, yeah - I'm sure they'll honour that. Good luck anyway.

 

[Vintage Paw]

I hope Corbyn spends it on jam making supplies.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

New shed for the allotment.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Sue]

Lentils, surely?

 

[gosub]

Sorting out his front garden

 

[Wilf]

I might grass our lass up to the witchfinders and pretend she's a trot. Anything to get our booze money back.

 

[Mr.Bishie]

 

[Sue]

I might grass our lass up to the witchfinders and pretend she's a trot. Anything to get our booze money back.

I think that's called misplaced optimism or something.

 

[Cid]

New shed for the allotment.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

Can get a decent greenhouse for that.

 

[Louis MacNeice]

Can get a decent greenhouse for that.

You think a man of Corbyn's calibre grows veg that needs such molly coddling? Away with you.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[Wilf]

I think that's called misplaced optimism or something.

Ok, if that doesn't work I'll tell them she didn't think Britannia was that cool anyway, and that she once made a risqué joke about Hazel Blears.

 

[J Ed]

The amount of money made by this leadership contest must surely reflect at least the possibility of willingness to give money to the Labour Party in a similar way to the crowdfunding of Podemos and Bernie Sanders' primary run.

The only problem then is, who gets the money?

I doubt that the people who would be willing to give money to Corbyn would want their money to go to getting say Wes Streeting re-elected, though they might be happy if it went towards Clive Lewis or other figures on the left of the party.