Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[MochaSoul]

Ward meetings aren't suspended though, unless the CLP suspensions automatically mean that, but that wasn't mentioned in the NEC statement of what is happening.

Don't ask me. The little I know of the engine I've learned from this thread. I had your thought last night and then I remembered a few lessons on terror without masses of blood I got from my Portuguese elders as I was growing up.

 

[kabbes]

Haha yes well neither of us have heard of her, but all I'm saying is don't underestimate Twitter's value as a news source.

I genuinely don't think it is possible to underestimate Twitter's value as a news source.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Do leadership elections have any oversight by an external body?

Doesn't look like it tbh.

 

[YouSir]

Why don't you members demand/hold ward meetings and have votes of confidence/no confidence at that level? Like, right now.

In my ward the committee is split, same with the membership. We passed a motion of support for Corbyn but the MP has her backers too. Any meeting called would immediately be labelled a Momentum split and entail no end of bullshit. Better, for now, to stick to the Momentum meeting and ensure that all those who want to vote, can vote. I think anyway.

 

[killer b]

Ward meetings aren't suspended though, unless the CLP suspensions automatically mean that, but that wasn't mentioned in the NEC statement of what is happening.

branch meetings are also suspended.

 

[BeverlyCrusher]

In my ward the committee is split, same with the membership. We passed a motion of support for Corbyn but the MP has her backers too. Any meeting called would immediately be labelled a Momentum split and entail no end of bullshit. Better, for now, to stick to the Momentum meeting and ensure that all those who want to vote, can vote. I think anyway.

This is the crux of the problem. Those that joined Labour to bring in socialism, expect the dirty work to be done by someone else.

 

[YouSir]

This is the crux of the problem. Those that joined Labour to bring in socialism, expect the dirty work to be done by someone else.

Eh?

 

[BeverlyCrusher]

Eh?

It's do or die. You won't get any favourable change in the LP if you're unwilling to get your hands dirty and attempt to avoid "bullshit".

A lot of the people I know who've joined up recently have given up their grassroots organising elsewhere. You cannot expect someone else to do the work for you.

 

[mauvais]

My CLP aren't responding. Happy to before the NEC meeting, not so interested now.

The MP is Ivan Lewis, sacked from Shadow Sec for NI by text on day one, getting a beating from his super-Jewish constituents for the perceived anti-semitism of the LP (supposedly, on various counts), running for Mayor, and vocal in asking Corbyn to resign.

Appetite for an argument aside, I suspect I have very few mates here, but we'll see.

 

[YouSir]

It's do or die. You won't get any favourable change in the LP if you're unwilling to get your hands dirty and attempt to avoid "bullshit".

A lot of the people I know who've joined up recently have given up their grassroots organising elsewhere. You cannot expect someone else to do the work for you.

Yes - and the work at the moment is ensuring people can vote for Corbyn. Then it's pushing for a reselection process and rescinding the voting restrictions through a new NEC. It's not alienating potential ward allies and investing in a fight to vote no confidence in an irrelevant MP.

 

[teqniq]

 

[teqniq]

Unite pushes for reselection of MPs

 

[teqniq]

 

[J Ed]

Surely either the atmosphere is so physically dangerous that it is irresponsible to hold any events and any deviation from that is being cavalier with safety or this exposes how hollow the justification for the ban is.

 

[Sifta]

Jeremy Corbyn has turned the Labour Party into a safe haven for violent thugs

Tom Harris is a former Labour MP and government minister at the Department for Transport. He now runs his own company, Third Avenue Communications Ltd, offering lobbying and political strategy advice. He is a member of the advisory board of the Reform Scotland think tank and maintains a Blairite perspective on UK politics.

 

[two sheds]

Is it correct (I swear I saw this somewhere this morning) that one of Labour's rules is that no CLP meetings are allowed while a leadership election is in progress?

Bit strange if it is because our local CLP has a meeting soon.

Eta: J.Ed's post above clears up the confusion

 

[DotCommunist]

I bet these fix job wankers are the sort who cheat at cards. The sort who slyly kicks the dog when you aren't there. Disgraceful behaviour.

 

[Lucy Fur]

Jeremy Corbyn has turned the Labour Party into a safe haven for violent thugs

Tom Harris is a former Labour MP and government minister at the Department for Transport. He now runs his own company, Third Avenue Communications Ltd, offering lobbying and political strategy advice. He is a member of the advisory board of the Reform Scotland think tank and maintains a Blairite perspective on UK politics.

What an odious fuck. Jesus, weve got two months of this kind of shit to look forward to before the vote.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Has anyone without a personal interest in seeing Corbyn thrown out reported any bullying, thuggery or intimidation? Apart from that ubiquitous Anonymous Labour Source person I mean?

 

[gawkrodger]

Novara/Mason interview

Brexit, Labour, Immigration & Trident – Paul Mason in conversation

nb: I haven't actually listened to this so have no idea what it's like

 

[Louis MacNeice]

@bbcsoutheast #Brighton Council Leader says the city Labour party's suspension has 'no impact' on council administration which will "carry on as normal"

Yeah, you carry on like fuck all's happened, eh Warren!

Could that be this Warren?

I’d made a promise to the person who succeeded me as President of the Students Union at Hull University that I’d join when Labour adopted “one member, one vote”.
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And the person he's referring to? None other than one Mr T Watson.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

 

[J Ed]

Has anyone without a personal interest in seeing Corbyn thrown out reported any bullying, thuggery or intimidation? Apart from that ubiquitous Anonymous Labour Source person I mean?

Yeah, sift through this if you are sufficiently interested (((Labour Abuse))) (@LabourCoupAbuse) on Twitter

Apparently this is what politics is now - being victimised and collecting examples of it

 

[DotCommunist]

heh, harriet harman must be pretty astonished at how much better this weaponised bureaucracy stitch up is than hers, which now looks like a vicars tea party compared to this which has turned into the battle of Tsaritsyn

 

[billy_bob]

Apart from that ubiquitous Anonymous Labour Source person I mean?

If it's ever revealed who that fucker is, I swear I'm going to go round to their house and...

...no, maybe better not

 

[Mr.Bishie]

Could that be this Warren?

I’d made a promise to the person who succeeded me as President of the Students Union at Hull University that I’d join when Labour adopted “one member, one vote”.
​

And the person he's referring to? None other than one Mr T Watson.

Cheers - Louis MacNeice

One & the same. Can't link to it on my phone but check out Tony Greenslimes latest blog post.

 

[SpookyFrank]

If it's ever revealed who that fucker is, I swear I'm going to go round to their house and...

...no, maybe better not

Careful now, the Labour NEC Thought Crimes Division have purged better men than you for less incendiary remarks than that

 

[Treacle Toes]

I just looked up who France's Barber is and, to be honest, I'm none the wiser. So why does it matter what nonsense she spews into the vacuum that is Twitter?

What gets said on Twitter makes even less difference to the country than what gets said on here.

Frances Barber - IMDb

 

[BeverlyCrusher]

Novara/Mason interview

Brexit, Labour, Immigration & Trident – Paul Mason in conversation

nb: I haven't actually listened to this so have no idea what it's like

He looks like he's been on the lash a bit too much recently.

 

[BeverlyCrusher]

Yes - and the work at the moment is ensuring people can vote for Corbyn. Then it's pushing for a reselection process and rescinding the voting restrictions through a new NEC. It's not alienating potential ward allies and investing in a fight to vote no confidence in an irrelevant MP.

The time for such niceties is long over. Your problem will take much more than casting votes to resolve.

 

[kabbes]

Frances Barber - IMDb

As I say, none the wiser.