Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Pickman's model]

I had a little scroll through some other documents, she's been publishing her mobile number many many times and requesting calls. I think she's lonely: NEC Distribution list.

she should get out more.

 

[Pickman's model]

... in fact, I wish I'd come up with that instead of the 200+ posts I've made on this thread.

you will, dear boy, you will

 

[agricola]

fuck me that's a weak signature

I do like how its only "supporters" who use social media in an abusive, aggressive or threatening way.

 

[emanymton]

I was hoping for something more precise from them. Disappointed.

Massive spike sounds kinda science like.

 

[emanymton]

PEOPLE WERE LITERALLY CALLING ME ON THE PHONE

For fucks sake. The big parties have teams of people called 'whips' just what is these people think the whips do?

 

[Tankus]

Maybe good news for Corbyn .......was how low the public turnout was at the palace for the May / Cameron handover ........ seemingly mostly tourists caught up in the moment..taking photos wondering WtF .....those funny English people...and their ways ...!

I'm sure Corbyns been to allotment meetings with a higher attendance level than that ...!

Who's the fukker with the megaphone...?

 

[Hocus Eye.]

Thanks for making the copy.

It's her own site and it's public. She asked people for their views, she demanded all legal paperwork, she published her own phone number and then she cried that Bad Corbyn bullied her. Fabian fraud.

And yet she described as "attacks" the very documents about the legal position that the NEC risked being in if it didn't endorse Corbyn as a candidate for leader...

 

[quimcunx]

Anyway here's what Unite have to say about joining and vote eligibility.

Your Party Your Voice

All Unite members are eligible to vote in the Labour leadership election provided:

1. They pay the political levy – this will be the case unless the member has opted out.
2. They have agreed to be affiliated to the Labour party and have signed a statement that they support the aims and values of the Labour party and are not a supporter of any other political party. Unite members should sign up using the 'I'm with Labour' form below before 8 August 2016 .
3. That they are on the electoral register at the address given to the union and the Labour party.
4. That have provided a date of birth and email address.
5. They have joined Unite and signed up as an affiliated member by 8 August 2016 . The Labour party will be conducting the election.

The Labour party will be first check applications against the electoral register and then will conduct checks on members to ensure that they are not supporters of any other parties. Unite does not have any role in this process.

 

[Wilf]

Massive spike sounds kinda science like.

They could have at least said it was off the scale. Then I'd know they actually had a scale. I bet the Libdem scientists have got a scale.

 

[Tankus]

They have god ...!

There is no scale .....

It's infinite

God tells Tim this is so

 

[wheelie_bin]

They could have at least said it was off the scale. Then I'd know they actually had a scale. I bit the Libdem scientists have got a scale.

For LibDem members it's like ancient Australian Aboriginal counting; 1, 2, 3, 4, many.

 

[happie chappie]

No that's gmb. Prospect was engineering and other managers

GMB is a separate union not connected with the AEEU which was a product of an amalgamation of the AEU and EEPTU which later morphed into MSF which became a precursor of Unite.

 

[Raheem]

fuck me that's a weak signature

Looks like he's taken it seriously enough to sign in his own blood, though.

 

[belboid]

GMB is a separate union not connected with the AEEU which was a product of an amalgamation of the AEU and EEPTU which then became a precursor of Unite.

doh! You're quite right

 

[J Ed]

Looks like he's taken it seriously enough to sign in his own blood, though.

that made me lol

 

[Orang Utan]

An anti-Corbyn Facebook person has just described him as the High Sparrow

 

[Tankus]

Pound land high sparrow surely

 

[agricola]

Corbyn so unelectable that Theresa May just nicked most of his ideas.

 

[Vintage Paw]

Corbyn so unelectable that Theresa May just nicked most of his ideas.

She's being described as more Ed Miliband than Ed Miliband.

Buzzfeed did a quiz: Who said this, Theresa May or Ed Miliband?

And one of Ed's former people took the test and scored 6/12

 

[Wilf]

Looks like he's taken it seriously enough to sign in his own blood, though.

Thin stuff, the sanguinary version of invisible ink. As the son of a Lord he's a A, but definitely negative.

Coat

 

[Vintage Paw]

I tell you what though, I'm about ready for a day without so many politics and not as many news.

 

[Pickman's model]

Pound land high sparrow surely

Anagram thread >>>

 

[Vintage Paw]

Looks like AGMs are banned as well.

ffs.

They're hoping no more votes of no confidence in MPs or confidence in Jez with take the wind out of the sails a bit, and also that all these new members who want to get right stuck in will be deflated by not being able to get stuck into anything at all for the next 2 months and will drift off.

My brain can't process all the swear words I'm trying to stick together atm.

 

[Wilf]

Following chilango 's excellent post above there's probably an interesting discussion to be had about active anti-capitalists feeling 'drawn in'. Politically, there are a few parallels and obvious differences to the formation, growth and ultimate disappointments of Syriza - very different as a coming together of existing parties, in a PR system, but one way in which a centre of gravity shaped up amid austerity. Even bearing in mind Syriza's climbdowns, Corbynism is pretty thin by comparison. But, following Chilango's post, the interesting bit is the psychological, the way all kinds of leftists and even anarchos are rationalising something they wouldn't remotely have considered doing 18 months ago. You can see people you know in real life or on facebook thinking it through, not really changing their views, but doing it anyway. Like others, I'm not having a go and it also reflects the weakness of class struggle outside of Labour. Trouble is, in the absence of becoming something other than a social democratic parliamentary party, the new labour left will be forced to play to the rules and logic of being exactly that.

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

What is the definition of a meeting in this context? Does it count if it's over Skype or something? Could that be a cheeky way round the ban of meetings, even if the purpose is just to piss off the PLP?

 

[chilango]

Following chilango 's excellent post above there's probably an interesting discussion to be had about active anti-capitalists feeling 'drawn in'. Politically, there are a few parallels and obvious differences to the formation, growth and ultimate disappointments of Syriza - very different as a coming together of existing parties, in a PR system, but one way in which a centre of gravity shaped up amid austerity. Even bearing in mind Syriza's climbdowns, Corbynism is pretty thin by comparison. But, following Chilango's post, the interesting bit is the psychological, the way all kinds of leftists and even anarchos are rationalising something they wouldn't remotely have considered doing 18 months ago. You can see people you know in real life or on facebook thinking it through, not really changing their views, but doing it anyway. Like others, I'm not having a go and it also reflects the weakness of class struggle outside of Labour. Trouble is, in the absence of becoming something other than a social democratic parliamentary party, the new labour left will be forced to play to the rules and logic of being exactly that.

Fuck yeah.

 

[inva]

Following chilango 's excellent post above there's probably an interesting discussion to be had about active anti-capitalists feeling 'drawn in'. Politically, there are a few parallels and obvious differences to the formation, growth and ultimate disappointments of Syriza - very different as a coming together of existing parties, in a PR system, but one way in which a centre of gravity shaped up amid austerity. Even bearing in mind Syriza's climbdowns, Corbynism is pretty thin by comparison. But, following Chilango's post, the interesting bit is the psychological, the way all kinds of leftists and even anarchos are rationalising something they wouldn't remotely have considered doing 18 months ago. You can see people you know in real life or on facebook thinking it through, not really changing their views, but doing it anyway. Like others, I'm not having a go and it also reflects the weakness of class struggle outside of Labour. Trouble is, in the absence of becoming something other than a social democratic parliamentary party, the new labour left will be forced to play to the rules and logic of being exactly that.

alienation
I reckon it's people who feel isolated from their colleagues (lone lefty in the office syndrome), family (arguing with Daily Mail reading relatives) and the prevailing media narratives (which are often taken to be represenative of society generally). so joining the labour party feels like doing something, nec wrangling over balots feels like winning. I sympathise with this and think these motivations are usually coming from a good place, but it doesn't solve the problem, and the alienation of the left remains - the far more essential work is to end the isolation, but that takes a different view of where we are and what needs doing.

 

[YouSir]

Fuck yeah.

Ignorant (of me) as it is I saw a picture a while back of an old march where the banner read 'Vote Labour with a Communist Group in Parliament', or words to that effect. Not that it practically means anything at the moment and Labour isn't going to take any really radical shifts but an amenable party which has a strong voice for more concrete Left wing stuff from the ground up (and a say for normal members) is something to aim for at least.

 

[chilango]

alienation
I reckon it's people who feel isolated from their colleagues (lone lefty in the office syndrome), family (arguing with Daily Mail reading relatives) and the prevailing media narratives (which are often taken to be represenative of society generally). so joining the labour party feels like doing something, nec wrangling over balots feels like winning. I sympathise with this and think these motivations are usually coming from a good place, but it doesn't solve the problem, and the alienation of the left remains - the far more essential work is to end the isolation, but that takes a different view of where we are and what needs doing.

Yep. That's where I'm at, almost.

 

[wheelie_bin]

What is the definition of a meeting in this context? Does it count if it's over Skype or something? Could that be a cheeky way round the ban of meetings, even if the purpose is just to piss off the PLP?

Yeah, can they do confidence / no confidence votes by email?