Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[Cid]

It wasn't seconded.

It was, but I gerrymandered it.

 

[Wilf]

I don't need the PLP support, I am the boss of my posts!

I think you'll find a no confidence motion waiting for you next time you attend.

 

[coley]

So what happens if Corbyn, despite the rule changes the NEC have brought in, wins?
And thon Eagle! Can anyone be more misappropriately named? Mair like a wet spuggy, though most spuggys ((wet or otherwise) have more charm, intelligence and charisma. Boring, embarrassing and backstabbing, and that seems to be her good points.

 

[jakethesnake]

Huh... I've just joined any way... don't care if I can vote in the leadership too much - he'll walk it - I'm looking forward to deselecting my mp (ben bradshaw).

 

[Treacle Toes]

I think you'll find a no confidence motion waiting for you next time you attend.

Who fucking cares? Never bothered me before ...

 

[ska invita]

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[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

Hahahaha - my ultra New Labour ex-colleague is moaning on Facebook that she let her membership lapse between May and June and now has to pay 25 quid to vote for Anyone But Corbyn. She's well pissed off.

 

[brogdale]

£25 to vote; the Labour Party social cleansing 'democracy'.
'kinnel.

 

[ruffneck23]

its backfiring already lol

 

[gawkrodger]

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[Sue]

Good for individual support (legal/technical, helping with freelance issues is something they've got a lot of experience on), fairly active with teaching options for members, but not great on supporting collective disputes or particularly leftie in and of itself (a lot of the membership would like it to be a professional association rather than a union, journos often being pretentious like that). It's just come out of a financial crisis brought on by the crash in print jobs so is a bit shorter on resources than it used to be.

Hmm, used to be in/a rep for the GPMU doing similar type of stuff. (Now part of Unite which I'm not sure is a good move.) Had some colleagues in the NUJ which was at that point v expensive subs-wise and a bit rubbish unless you were in a big place/recognised. (We were unrecognised and fought hard over years and became one of the first places to be recognised under the new legislation. Notorious anti-union corporation which made it all the sweeter. )

 

[Wilf]

£25 to vote; the Labour Party social cleansing 'democracy'.
'kinnel.

The best democracy that money can buy... but not if you bought it since January... though my manager has permitted me to offer a special deal, but only if you sign up over the next 48 hours.

 

[JimW]

£25 to vote; the Labour Party social cleansing 'democracy'.
'kinnel.

Bringing back the property qualification, just one of our progressive policies for a fairer Britain.

 

[squirrelp]

Listening to the PLP, Ben Bradshaw, John McTernan etc today... its like some aliens in a sci-fi movie where they masquerade in reasonable human form but once the game is up they start sprouting three heads and vomiting green acid

 

[quimcunx]

Maybe there is a way to crowdfund to pay for others' memberships. Although I doubt it's necessary.

 

[Wilf]

Bringing back the property qualification, just one of our progressive policies for a fairer Britain.

The NEC meeting ran over a bit tonight. It finished in 18:32

 

[free spirit]

The '£25 ambush' after Corbo and his mates went for last orders really hasn't been thought through. 'Person x joined 6 months ago, attended meetings, went canvassing. Person Y just bungs in £25 to vote'. What the fuck about people who can't afford £25. What a set of incompetent, inconsistent, stupid cunts.

also, it clearly states on the join section of the website that being able to vote for the leader is one of the benefits of joining the party.

Where could my membership take me?

As a member, you’ll be a key part of the team. You’ll be eligible to vote in leadership elections, you can help shape party policy, you can attend local meetings and you can even stand as a candidate.

So whether you want to chip in to help us reach our goals because you share our values, or because you have ambitions to serve your community and country, the only place to start is through joining the Labour Party as a member.

So that'd be false advertising / taking money under false pretenses. Something along those lines.

eta oh I see that's been covered already.

 

[muscovyduck]

Everyone being encouraged to join unions to get a chance to vote. This is massively backfiring

 

[Wilf]

also, it clearly states on the join section of the website that being able to vote for the leader is one of the benefits of joining the party.



So that'd be false advertising / taking money under false pretenses. Something along those lines.

On the face of it yes, though upthread somebody mentioned there always was a qualification period and that was only changed in 2015. But yes, absolutely, people have joined thinking they could vote.

 

[Wilf]

'Can you PLEASE stop joining our party!'

 

[ska invita]

Anyone know what Jon Cruddas is up to in regards all this? What side of the fence...

 

[ItWillNeverWork]

So I can't vote in the leadership election if I join the party now, but I will be able to if I join a union. Is that right?

 

[redsquirrel]

Huh... I've just joined any way... don't care if I can vote in the leadership too much - he'll walk it - I'm looking forward to deselecting my mp (ben bradshaw).

I'm not in favour of people joining up but for a chance to give that cunt a kick in the balls it would almost be worth it. Good luck.

 

[coley]

Ooo do they pay us interest?

Like the people the Labour Party are supposed to protect will have a spare £25 sitting there!
More an appeal to the neo Tories who comprise most of the support for the PLP to dig into their pockets to stop Corbyn.
I'm beginning to hate thon woman more than I ever hated Osbourne.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Maybe there is a way to crowdfund to pay for others' memberships. Although I doubt it's necessary.

Great idea... Pressing timeframe though.

 

[Fez909]

Anyone know what Jon Cruddas is up to in regards all this? What side of the fence...

Before Corbyn was elected he had concerns but was sympathetic:

The author of Labour’s 2015 general election manifesto, Jon Cruddas, has said a Jeremy Corbyn-led Labour party would risk turning into an early 80s, Trotskyist tribute act.

He argued that the success of Corbyn’s campaign had been symptomatic of deeper problems in the Labour movement. “Here’s the thing with Jeremy Corbyn, he’s not causing the crisis for the Labour party,” Cruddas said. “His campaign is symptomatic of the nature of the crisis. He is inhabiting that crisis and diagnosing it and I think that needs to be welcomed.”

Corbyn-led Labour might turn into 1980s Trotskyist tribute act, says Cruddas

 

[quimcunx]

Unions would be the best bet to get reach quickly but it looks like they have a different workaround ie joining them.

 

[Vintage Paw]

So I can't vote in the leadership election if I join the party now, but I will be able to if I join a union. Is that right?

Yes, it seems so.

And if those unions can be canny and try to harness those new members after the fact as well... I mean, it's hard to see how this isn't a plus really.

I'm going to join Unite Community. You have to also ensure you jump through the extra hoop of signing up to support as a Labour affiliate (which I believe technically means saying you want your subs to go towards the Labour Party affiliation). So it's not enough just to join the union.

 

[Wilf]

So I can't vote in the leadership election if I join the party now, but I will be able to if I join a union. Is that right?

Yes.

As a matter of interest, I just looked on the Labour Animal Welfare Society website. Nothing seems to have been posted there since the Leadership election last year. I wonder how active some of the other affiliated societies are? Bit of a joke if you can vote having joined something LAWS in the next 48 hours when you can't vote if you've been a paying member for 6 months.

 

[squirrelp]

Huffington Post quick off the mark

How Jeremy Corbyn Triumphed At Labour's National Executive Committee (NEC) Meeting