Jeremy Corbyn's time is up

[AmateurAgitator]

I think that's a fair point, but important to remember that the Beveridge report was published as early in the war as 1942. This undeniably helped Churchill to maintain the coalition throughout the war years and, although his 1943 "After the War" speech came with the usual Tory caveats of 'no magic money tree' he did commit to implementing the pillars of Beveridge.

Yep, absolutely.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Surely it's something of a truism that any of capital's post-war concessions would, by definition, benefit our class? It's not "counter-revolutionary" to believe that those changes in the political-economy were altruistic, just somewhat naive.

Yep, this is true.

 

[sleaterkinney]

Ceasefire?. African Union?.

 

[Shechemite]

Think you need to have a word with the big boss man Jeff Robinson

 

[ska invita]

Ceasefire?. African Union?.

highly biased framing of what he says in the interview.

 

[two sheds]

They needed to ask whether Putin could be trusted to hold to a ceasefire though.

 

[sleaterkinney]

They needed to ask whether Putin could be trusted to hold to a ceasefire though.

He could, it would give him a chance to consolidate the territory he has and re-arm before attacking again.

 

[two sheds]

yes indeed

 

[platinumsage]

Thank God Johnson beat Corbyn in 2019 and we didn't have our PM appear on Hezbollah TV criticising Ukraine for prolonging the war. I think all domestic political considerations come second to the damage Corbyn would have done on the world stage.

 

[editor]

Thank God Johnson beat Corbyn in 2019 and we didn't have our PM appear on Hezbollah TV criticising Ukraine for prolonging the war. I think all domestic political considerations come second to the damage Corbyn would have done on the world stage.

In your imagination.

 

[Riklet]

Lol Corbyn is such a delusional bellend. The man has zero fucking graciousness or self awareness either.

 

[Karl Masks]

Thank God Johnson beat Corbyn in 2019 and we didn't have our PM appear on Hezbollah TV criticising Ukraine for prolonging the war. I think all domestic political considerations come second to the damage Corbyn would have done on the world stage.

Thank god for sarcasm

 

[editor]

Ceasefire?. African Union?.

It's worth reading some of the responses to that interview

 

[sleaterkinney]

It's worth reading some of the responses to that interview

I’ve watched the whole video myself.

 

[killer b]

The interview is just standard boilerplate Corbyn chat, nothing remarkable or really that controversial there - his decision to appear on what appears to be a iranian/syrian propaganda outlet is the questionable decision here. Although tbf that's standard Corbyn behaviour too. Ah well.

 

[killer b]

of course in the fantasy world where Corbyn wins the 2019 general election and then somehow is still prime minister now, he wouldn't be giving interviews to minor arab satellite stations, so our standing on the world stage would be unsullied by this appearance.

 

[platinumsage]

of course in the fantasy world where Corbyn wins the 2019 general election and then somehow is still prime minister now, he wouldn't be giving interviews to minor arab satellite stations, so our standing on the world stage would be unsullied by this appearance.

Yeah he’d be doing a lot worse with Ukraine than talking shit to Assadists about it.

 

[hitmouse]

Spent several valuable seconds of my life starting to type a reply before stopping and realising that I was on the verge of getting into an argument about what the foreign policy of a hypothetical alternate universe Corbyn government would be.

 

[killer b]

Spent several valuable seconds of my life starting to type a reply before stopping and realising that I was on the verge of getting into an argument about what the foreign policy of a hypothetical alternate universe Corbyn government would be.

he'd have al quaeda round for tea at chequers probably.

 

[platinumsage]

I’d imagine he’d start by refusing to join the US-led imperialist warmongering sanctions campaign against the Russian people, and encourage other states to do likewise. Then he’d refuse to supply weapons to facilitate the terrible warmongering on both sides, and encourage other countries to do likewise, etc etc It doesn’t take much hypothesising tbh.

 

[killer b]

It's also pretty easy to conclude that the prime minister of a country might take different actions to those of a now-insignificant independent MP.

 

[Dystopiary]

Spent several valuable seconds of my life starting to type a reply before stopping and realising that I was on the verge of getting into an argument about what the foreign policy of a hypothetical alternate universe Corbyn government would be.

Spoilsport!

 

[platinumsage]

It's also pretty easy to conclude that the prime minister of a country might take different actions to those of a now-insignificant independent MP.

Thankfully his time is up, so you have the luxury of imagining the peace and goodwill he would have spread abroad as PM without ever having have to face the reality of what he would have been like

 

[hitmouse]

Yes, it's a good thing that everything turned out for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds.

 

[killer b]

I'm not imagining anything of the sort - you're the weirdo coming up with lurid fantasies of what the world would be like under his iron fist.

FWIW I reckon had Corbyn somehow scraped a win in 2019 he'd be gone by now one way or the other - but who knows? It would have been a different world that elected Corbyn, and not the one we're in.

What we can safely say is that what we got instead was disastrous - I've no regrets for campaigning for Corbyn as the alternative to this, deeply flawed though he clearly is.

 

[platinumsage]

What we can safely say is that what we got instead was disastrous - I've no regrets for campaigning for Corbyn as the alternative to this, deeply flawed though he clearly is.

Disastrous? That’s a rather parochial view and I’m not sure many Ukrainians would agree. Most of the world doesn’t care about UK domestic stuff.

 

[killer b]

Most of the world doesn't live in the UK, so that's kind of normal. I do though?

 

[platinumsage]

Yes, it's a good thing that everything turned out for the best in this, the best of all possible worlds.

Funny how many on the left are obsessed about what could have been under Corbyn, but only so far as the good stuff goes. The bad stuff is just lurid imaginings.

 

[killer b]

Funny how many on the left are obsessed about what could have been under Corbyn

it's your head he's living in rent free dude.

 

[platinumsage]

it's your head he's living in rent free dude.