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Japanese mayor says that WWII 'comfort women' were necessary

By the way Toru Hashimoto is one of the World Economic Forums 'young global leaders' (class of 2009 from what I've discovered).
http://www.weforum.org/young-global-leaders/toru-hashimoto

Bizarrely (I wanted to know more of his *ahem* "forthright views") he also thinks that local government is completely within its rights to sack anyone with a tattoo, even a hidden one. No really! Because they're representatives of the state and thus have no right to a private life or control of their own body.

And more bizarrely yet he is (allegedly) from a burakumin (deeply stigmatised social/ethnic/indigenous minority) background and his mum even changed their family name to try and reduce the victimisation they suffered as a result when he was a child.

all very strange indeed. still no excuse for rape-victim-baiting, either.
 
Bizarrely (I wanted to know more of his *ahem* "forthright views") he also thinks that local government is completely within its rights to sack anyone with a tattoo, even a hidden one. No really! Because they're representatives of the state and thus have no right to a private life or control of their own body.
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Won't that be also due to the association of tattooing with organised crime?
 
I do.

What would they have to gain by intentionally linking themselves to war crimes?

There are no war crimes according to the Japanese government. Why else would they still pay homage to a shrine that holds war criminals (some from the 731 unit).
 
There are no war crimes according to the Japanese government. Why else would they still pay homage to a shrine that holds war criminals (some from the 731 unit).
That's why I think they wouldn't mention it. Must some three dimensional chess level sort of politics that make s a reference to something you otherwise do your best to ignore or deny.
 
That's why I think they wouldn't mention it. Must some three dimensional chess level sort of politics that make s a reference to something you otherwise do your best to ignore or deny.

Not sure what you mean by that, I doubt it was an accident, 731 can't just be an accidental number.

The government's of China, Korea and other Asian neigbours don't have the same ideas as you do, they must be mistaken?
 
Not sure what you mean by that, I doubt it was an accident, 731 can't just be an accidental number.

The government's of China, Korea and other Asian neigbours don't have the same ideas as you do, they must be mistaken?
I mean what advantage do you believe the Japanese government would be seeking by doing it on purpose? Having denied it so long, it wouldn't be immediately obvious to folks at home I would have thought, so no kudos there, and deniable gratuitous offence to regional neighbours/rivals - well, perhaps but again doesn't seem likely.
 
So you reckon the jet itself has been intentionally numbered to piss people off?

Maybe the Japanese military see the number 731 as special? Or just a random number, as at the same time Japan is trying to increase their influence over their neighbours? And their Prime Minister is sitting in a plane with some random numbers.........:hmm:
 
I mean what advantage do you believe the Japanese government would be seeking by doing it on purpose? Having denied it so long, it wouldn't be immediately obvious to folks at home I would have thought, so no kudos there, and deniable gratuitous offence to regional neighbours/rivals - well, perhaps but again doesn't seem likely.

So, you just think it's an amazingly idiotic faux pas?
 
So, you just think it's an amazingly idiotic faux pas?
Yes. The logic behind visiting the Yasukuni Shrine is that it plays well domestically to a certain demographic even if it pisses off the neighbours - tough with regional adversaries, honouring our boys whatever the consequences etc. There's no logic in reminding people of your war crimes, ones you have made sure only those with an interest at home even know about at all.
 
Dandred said:
Maybe the Japanese military see the number 731 as special? Or just a random number, as at the same time Japan is trying to increase their influence over their neighbours?

Or maybe it's just one of a series of similarly numbered jets?


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Japanese ultranationlists are world class batshit types.
There's a touching polar opposite type that gets a lot of play here, which is old soldiers who come to the scenes of their crimes in China to apologise and make amends as best they can. of course, these are usually the ordinary grunts who weren't particularly culpable in the first place, but they get a great reception.
 
Tbf the japanese imperial army treated its own men with a shocking degree of brutalitly
Which explains some of the horrors the pows experianced normal behaviour for the japanese army.
Mind you senior japanese officers carried out assasinations against rivals so the whole society was deeply deeply fucked up.
 
Won't that be also due to the association of tattooing with organised crime?
probably, but iirc this guy has/had himself been accused of dodgy links to the yakuza - who like mafiosi everywhere skew more to the ultra-right / fierce conservatism side of things than cuddly liberalism. anyway....
 
The JASDF have about 200 Kawasaki T-4s serialled from 600 to 800+. 731 has been a Blue Impulse jet for years so this could not have been planned.
 
Numorology is quite big in parts of asia so maybe be a cock up or the sort of military "sense of humour" that when the ANC were in NI saw a vcp manned by white south africans :(
Interview without coffee for all concerned after that clever wheeze.
Probably somebody in the JSDF thinking it was funny :(.
 
I mean what advantage do you believe the Japanese government would be seeking by doing it on purpose? Having denied it so long, it wouldn't be immediately obvious to folks at home I would have thought, so no kudos there, and deniable gratuitous offence to regional neighbours/rivals - well, perhaps but again doesn't seem likely.

I think you're being too kind. From what little I've observed of Japanese politics, pols there seem to operate very much on multiple layers of meaning. The make the FCO look like 1st-year amateurs.
 
I think you're being too kind. From what little I've observed of Japanese politics, pols there seem to operate very much on multiple layers of meaning. The make the FCO look like 1st-year amateurs.
Don't think it's kind - incompetence at that level isn't a compliment, and still reckon they're in the business of war-crimes denial rather than even oblique references. Can't put my hand on heart and say for sure either way, but that's how it reads to me.
 
That story is nothing compered to this one...... http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2013/05/120_135776.html

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe in the cockpit of a T-4 training jet at an airbase in Miyagi gives a thumbs up, Tuesday. The number on the fuselage of the aircraft — 731— has triggered protests from Korea, China and imperial Japan’s other victims, who have taken offense because it coincides with that of Unit 731, which conducted biological and chemical warfare experiments using people from countries Japan occupied. / AFP-Yonhap

The Japanese Prime Minister decides to sit in a fighter plane with the "731" on the side, the number of the Japanese army's biological and chemical warfare until in the second world war!

Imagine Merkel wearing an SS uniform and giving out striped pajamas and you have an idea what this means to Japan's neighours. :facepalm: :facepalm:

Yeah, but its not the same, though.

What you suggest would be a very deliberate action, but this thing with a number on a plane is probably random.

I mean, all planes have numbers on the side, but no-one co-incidentally turns up in an SS uniform (except certain members of the British royal family, of course!).

For a REAL insensitive faux-pax, check out this "unit photo" of the US Marines "Scout Snipers" in Afghanistan:

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