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Where do you think the money should come from when the country is in massive debt?

It's probably worth pointing out that the national debt is lower than it has been for most of the last 300 years.

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But then, you'll doubtless ignore this, just as you've ignored every other fact that contradicts your argument. You complain about people swearing at you, but it's no wonder people get frustrated when getting a straight answer from you is like trying to shovel smoke.
 
Don't be so rude and childish. It's not necessary.

I'm not defending the bankers in any way. I'm asking genuine questions. It's interesting that people like you get all hot and bothered and abusive for no reason whatsoever.

Genuine questions, lol
 
There really is no point explaining anything to someone who lacks sincerity and honesty. You're already of the opinion that the public sector is bad and that it's bleeding you dry (a myth), so why bother?

I'm not of the opinion that the public sector is bad. You're reading things into my posts that aren't there.

I can only conclude that you have no answer.
 
Don't be so rude and childish. It's not necessary.

I'm not defending the bankers in any way. I'm asking genuine questions. It's interesting that people like you get all hot and bothered and abusive for no reason whatsoever.

no reason? Other than maybe your complete dishonesty. You have lied and talked demonstrable rubbish throughout this thread. Attempted to take a moral high ground when ever anyone has used a naughty word against you, but refuse to deal with simple facts, and bury your head to ignore anything you dont want to hear.

It's really quite pathetic behaviour on your part.
 
It's probably worth pointing out that the national debt is lower than it has been for most of the last 300 years.

ukgs_line.php


But then, you'll doubtless ignore this, just as you've ignored every other fact that contradicts your argument. You complain about people swearing at you, but it's no wonder people get frustrated when getting a straight answer from you is like trying to shovel smoke.

Which shows that, in a historical context, we're not in anything like the dire straits the goverment claims. And here is is a demonstration that that is not the case today, in comparison to other countries. It's a smokescreen for an ideological programme. Nothing more.

http://www.economist.com/content/global_debt_clock
 
It's probably worth pointing out that the national debt is lower than it has been for most of the last 300 years.

ukgs_line.php


But then, you'll doubtless ignore this, just as you've ignored every other fact that contradicts your argument. You complain about people swearing at you, but it's no wonder people get frustrated when getting a straight answer from you is like trying to shovel smoke.

From the same website:
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/budget_ukgs.php
 
I'm asking genuine questions. .
But you are not though are you? A discussion involves you considering and replying to the content of peoples posts. Something you absolutely refuse to do, instead you just repeat the same dogmatic drivel totally oblivious to peoples posts. For example, earlier in this thread I posted the following, a post that others have since reposted, You have completely ignored it. So, now, for the third fucking time.

Dylans
You are so concerned about your day off, are you concerned about your childs educational future? Are you happy about your kid being taught by demoralised resentful 68 year old teachers who don't want to be in the classroom? I'm not so with all respect fuck your day off you selfish cunt, this is a fight for our childrens future. If you want better wages and a better pension then join a union and fight for them, if you are not prepared to do that then don't take it out on those who are.

As for your wages being lower due to taxes, can you show me the posts where you complain about the £2 trillion pounds of our money gambled away by the financial banking system? Can you show me where you complain about trident nuclear weapons or the waste of money on endless wars. Can you show me where you complain about the outrageous bonuses paid to bankers after our taxes bailed them out. Can you show me where you complain about the cost of the Royal wedding or the enforced day off school for our kids to pay for that event? No? Then spare me your pathetic resentment at the fact that the people who educate your child should enjoy a decent standard of living.
 
No, it was a co-op. Closed some years ago.

Point is, that everyone should be entitled to a decent pension. If businesses really can't afford it, then there needs to be a better state pension.

I dont disagree with you in principle. Most larger businesses can afford to assist with pension payments - most SMEs can't.

Don't forget Gordon's raid on private pensions as soonas he became Chancellor -not looking such a good idea now
 
I dont disagree with you in principle. Most larger businesses can afford to assist with pension payments - most SMEs can't.

Nonsense. Most SME's simply choose not to make any payments, those that can't are (usually) simply crapply run businesses that wouldn't last anyway.
 
But you are not though are you? A discussion involves you considering and replying to the content of peoples posts. Something you absolutely refuse to do, instead you just repeat the same dogmatic drivel totally oblivious to peoples posts. For example, earlier in this thread I posted the following, a post that others have since reposted, You have completely ignored it. So, now, for the third fucking time.

You have absolutely no idea what my opinion is of wars, weapons, the royal wedding or the financial system. So get off your high horse and don't try to project opinions onto me that I don't hold.
 
You have absolutely no idea what my opinion is of wars, weapons, the royal wedding or the financial system. So get off your high horse and don't try to project opinions onto me that I don't hold.

You cant blame anyone for assuming things when you persistently and adamantly refuse to answer questions and points put to you. It is all rather one way weith you isnt it (take, take, take. typical tory).

It's why no one believes you actually have a child who couldn't go to school yesterday.
 
You cant blame anyone for assuming things when you persistently and adamantly refuse to answer questions and points put to you. It is all rather one way weith you isnt it (take, take, take. typical tory).

It's why no one believes you actually have a child who couldn't go to school yesterday.

????
Bizarre. Schools were closed yesterday ....
 
Yes, but you dont have a child, do you? You made her up. Sorry these 'sentence' things are a bit too complicated for you to understand
 
Nonsense. Most SME's simply choose not to make any payments, those that can't are (usually) simply crapply run businesses that wouldn't last anyway.

The law requires them to provide a scheme , not make payments. If you're telling me that the local corner shop can afford to make pension payments on the part of employees, teh you must know different types of businesses to me.
 
Err .... I have a child.

Not sure why you're being so rude, but it seems to be the norm on Urban.

Anyway, if you chose not to believe me that's fine. I won't lose any sleep about it.
 
Err .... I have a child.

Not sure why you're being so rude, but it seems to be the norm on Urban.

Anyway, if you chose not to believe me that's fine. I won't lose any sleep about it.

I think lying about people, ignoring all the points which contradict yours (ie, all of them), making various things up (provably so, eg that 'most people are employed by small companies') and posting up random links that you cant explain - all og them are far far ruder than anything anyone has said to/about you.

tell you what, if you go back and quickly cover all those points you've ignored up till now, then I'll believe you about your child. If not, then I will just have to take it that you are admitting you haven't really got one, and are just being a sad little troll
 
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