J30 strike: NUT, PCS, UCU, ATL call for a general strike on June 30th

[ViolentPanda]

Seeing as I posted your entire quote, how on gods earth could that be selective editing? More poor reading on your behalf I'm afraid. A testament to your myopic standpoint.

So now you've moved on to bare-faced lying?

You posted "I suppose that if I have a point", a selective culling from a sentence that actually said "I suppose that if I have a point, in these criticisms of your pronouncements, it's that you're a spieler". In other words you posted the first 8 words of a 19-word sentence. You selectively edited that sentence, removing the final 11 words, in order to score points.

You're a spieler, Paul. A Billy Bullshitter who, like all Billy Bullshitters, hates being found out.

You'll be pleased to know, I'll be busy for the rest of the week. But will come back on the weekend)))

Oh joy!


E2A: By the way, I'm long-sighted rather than short-sighted.

 

[ViolentPanda]

@vp - that wasn't directed at you, I was talking about Mr Atherton. Should have quoted him really. My apologies.

I know, Norm. But I accept that I'm partially responsible for Billy Paul continuing to post his flights of google-fueled ego, for which I apologise.

 

[SpineyNorman]

I know, Norm. But I accept that I'm partially responsible for Billy Paul continuing to post his flights of google-fueled ego, for which I apologise.

But will come back on the weekend)))

Please don't

 

[PaulAtherton]

So now you've moved on to bare-faced lying?

You posted "I suppose that if I have a point", a selective culling from a sentence that actually said "I suppose that if I have a point, in these criticisms of your pronouncements, it's that you're a spieler". In other words you posted the first 8 words of a 19-word sentence. You selectively edited that sentence, removing the final 11 words, in order to score points.

You're a spieler, Paul. A Billy Bullshitter who, like all Billy Bullshitters, hates being found out.

Oh joy!

E2A: By the way, I'm long-sighted rather than short-sighted.

I had already posted that quote in full three paragraphs earlier, to my abbreviated version of it, which I'd also addressed. As I said poor reading on your behalf.

So an apology from you would be in order.

 

[BigTom]

I had already posted that quote in full three paragraphs earlier, to my abbreviated version of it, which I'd also addressed. As I said poor reading on your behalf.

So an apology from you would be in order.

Blimey, you've returned, and only a month later than you said! fancy addressing my reply at the bottom of the previous page at all?

 

[PaulAtherton]

Blimey, you've returned, and only a month later than you said! fancy addressing my reply at the bottom of the previous page at all?

Hi BigTom, Real life intervening at the moment (health been very poor). But will respond as soon as I can.

 

[BigTom]

Sorry to hear about your health Paul, I hope you do respond at some point.

 

[gaijingirl]

Just as an addendum.. I received a letter from NASUWT earlier this week - they are balloting members to strike later this term. This what they say:

"This is not just about pensions; all of our conditions of service are under attack. For example:

The three hour limit on classroom observations is to go.
The Prime Minister has announced that he would like to shorten the summer holiday.
There is a 2 year pay freeze whilst inflation is running at over 5% (an effective pay cut of 10%).
The technical move from RPI to CPI when setting pensions will cost you nearly half a million pounds (assuming your pension is £20k pa and you live to draw it for 30 years). This on top of the proposals to make you pya more, work longer and receive less.
Performance management regulations are to change, removing the 3-hour limit on classroom observations, and the make it more like you are on a permanent capability procedure.
The Government wants schools to have "greater flexibility" which puts Rarely Cover, PPA and the ban on administrative tasks in the firing line.

On top of all of this, members still tell us that workload continues to be their biggest concern."

 

[Guineveretoo]

About 20 unions are planning industrial action on 30 November. This is going to be the biggest strike for decades, and is certainly closer to a general strike than the June one, which only involved a few unions.

 

[gaijingirl]

so when NASUWT refer to a strike later this term - are they talking about that date do you think?

 

[Guineveretoo]

Almost certainly. I don't know whether NASUWT are balloting for continuous strike action or what, but the date of 30 November is the one to keep an eye on. If we get a yes vote, it'll be as close to a general strike as it could possibly be. They reckon it could be the biggest strike in living history. The top civil servants and top managers in the NHS and local government are putting out lots of misinformation about it, despite their unions also balloting!

 

[gaijingirl]

thanks - interesting news.

 

[shaun balls]

Pre-ballot info check letters were out for Unite healthcare a couple of weeks ago. I have a daft question though - does dual membership in the case of both unions balloting in one workplace cause any complications? Any odd technicalities?