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J30 strike: NUT, PCS, UCU, ATL call for a general strike on June 30th

belboid said:
the reason for their strike was completely settled (the worker was re-instated). A tad harsh to call that 'chickening out'
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Exactly - imagine the press coverage. It was a significant climbdown by the management:
"Hard lesson" for tube management as driver wins reinstatement
http://www.socialistparty.org.uk/articles/12287

Arwyn: "Management have learned a very hard lesson and the RMT has come out stronger. We timed the strike so that the dates would incorporate 30 June. I think the fact that we would have gone on strike then enormously strengthened our hand. I'd like to see this victory as the first victory of the 30 June movement."

And not just a lesson for management - its a lesson for all of us - how to win

The victimised driver they had refused to reinstate until the serious threat of strike action is an SP member.
 
Not meant as a criticism of the RMT necessarily, but wasn't it more a result of the tribunal verdict than the industrial action?
 
articul8 said:
Not meant as a criticism of the RMT necessarily, but wasn't it more a result of the tribunal verdict than the industrial action?
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They are not obliged to take do what the IT says though, they can simply ignore it. However the strength of feeling made clear to LRT the consequences of a refusal to re-instate Arwyn should they choose to do so.
 
Yes but what was the logic of calling a strike before the tribunal reported? You think they would have re-instated him if it found against? That would have taken more than a one-day stoppage surely?
 
Sure, but more than a one day stoppage was called. Always best to push your case when people as soon as people are up for it, not to lose momentum n all that.

And, of course, they wanted to strike on the 30th with the others.
 
articul8 said:
Yes but what was the logic of calling a strike before the tribunal reported? You think they would have re-instated him if it found against? That would have taken more than a one-day stoppage surely?
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To build momentum, as belboid said, there were numerous strike days voted for and planned. They used the IT and the threat of strikes. The RMT, wisely, was ahead of the game and made sure they were ready for the worst case scenario, a sensible option. It may well also have been the plan by RMT to strike on the 30th that concentrated minds even more at the IT.
 
Connexions workers in Birmingham, who have a standing mandate for strike action from a previous ballot will also be out in Brum on the 30th, with pickets at their offices, a mini-rally at their central office and then joining the main strike rally.. http://birminghamagainstthecuts.wor...nison-connexions-workers-to-join-j30-strikes/

I'm getting progressively more annoyed that they couldn't finish my contract tomorrow instead of thursday! still, it's looking big enough to carry on until 4 when I can get to the centre..
 
Very good interview by someone from the Association of Teachers and Lecturers on the Talk Sport tea time programme in which he got Darren Gough to back the teachers case. Gough was gob smacked 'You mean your paying more in in order to get less out and have to work more years to get less?'
Adrian Durham informed us that whilst in the private sector where people had to work from dawn to midnight working in the public sector was cushy and that teachers weren't setting very good role models on the importance of attending school.

The teachers could do us all a favour by keeping Adrian Durham at home with his kids for aday so we don't have to listen to this egotistical bore.
 
Millipede has come out explicitly against the strike tonight, Kinnock 2

don't remember the politicians worrying about kids missing a day's school when they declared a public holiday for the royal wedding.
 
treelover said:
Millipede has come out explicitly against the strike tonight, Kinnock 2

don't remember the politicians worrying about kids missing a day's school when they declared a public holiday for the royal wedding.
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well said. Shameless opportunist . If that's the way New Labour are going instead of a coalition government we may as well declare a coalition government and oppisition
 
A bit of stating the bleedin' obvious here, but check out this Graun article here, and read the comments - overwhelmingly of the "the public sector workers are creaming it off - fuck 'em!" variety (when they're not waffling on about the "meaning" of music in politics today). Is this what a "liberal" mindset has come to - fuck the poor and when's the next music festival, baby? (I think I know the answer to that one)...and hats off to the Graun for trying to shoehorn a "yes to AV" comment in again. Surely if the Graun is still down with the Orange Books, they should be opposing this strike too? Such fuckers.
 
Everytime I hear another politician telling everyone they are very naughty for striking I just think to myself 'they are fucking worried' :D
 
Imo, thats a good article by John Harris, the culture hasn't really engaged yet with events, though we have Captain Ska, Lansley rap, etc..

though using Glasto with tickets at £200 a pop isn't really the best example of it, though he may be right about the decadence and hedonism..
 
'Because they won John. The working class was decimated in the 80s. But what went with it was any belief in the creation of a socially-democratic British utopia. Far far far too many traitors for any belief in that anymore. So people are collectively keeping their heads down and making the most of what was once a great country. And whether you like it or not the Guardianista class and all those spliff heads at Glasto are firmly amongst those aforementioned traitors.'

This won't go down well on parts of Urban!
 
Some rent a quote gobshite was on the radio today waving his back-of-fag-packet calculations on how much it was all going to cost the UK plc.
 
DotCommunist said:
Some rent a quote gobshite was on the radio today waving his back-of-fag-packet calculations on how much it was all going to cost the UK plc.
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Boo fucking hoo - "but the High Street won't be able to cope! How will our hard-working mums cope with the kids being off school for one day? [uh, what do you think happens when kids are ill?] Why are these teachers, nurses, social workers just so selfish? Why don't they understand that capitalism knows best, and that the free market cares for all?" (copyright all fuckwits everywhere).
 
chamber of commerce bod it was. Could just have easily been CBI or any other shill for capitalism.

Anyway, good luck to those of you on strike tomorrow.
 
over 70 pickets, demos & school closures on the batc map for Birmingham: http://birminghamagainstthecuts.wordpress.com/upcoming-actions/june-30th-strike-day-activity/
and I didn't put hardly any of the school closures on there either as there were far too many and it was getting late. I can't be bothered to add more now..

Good Unite the Resistance public meeting last night.. people from the unions saying how the various pension schemes have been audited in the last few years and declared affordable and sustainable by such bodies as the NAO and Public Accounts committee. It's going to be a big day tomorrow, I hope that lots of the council workers turn out (10,000 of them on strike) as it will make the main rally absolutely huge - at the moment there are 12 (kind of) feeder marches to the rally from around Birmingham, and rallies from Stourbridge and Wolverhampton will also be travelling over to join in. And I'm at work :(
good luck / solidarity to everyone striking or joining the strikers tomorrow
 
My schools not closing cos NUT and ATL don't make up a large proportion of staff, but every other school in my area is. We still have 11 members out and theyre all going to rallies, and despite being the NUT rep the head offered me a promotion today so I must be doing something right! :D
 
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