Is it too late?
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bcuster
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We may've been fooled:
www.cbsnews.com
Critics call out plastics industry over "fraud of plastic recycling"
Only 5 to 6% of plastic waste produced in the U.S. is actually recycled. A new report accuses the plastics industry of a decades-long campaign to "mislead" the public about the viability of recycling.
www.cbsnews.com
lazythursday
Averagely-Known Member
US figures but suspect the figures for UK are higher but also pretty poor. The official figures are something like 40% of plastic recycled but this includes stuff sent abroad with little actual evidence of recycling.We may've been fooled:
Critics call out plastics industry over "fraud of plastic recycling"
Only 5 to 6% of plastic waste produced in the U.S. is actually recycled. A new report accuses the plastics industry of a decades-long campaign to "mislead" the public about the viability of recycling.
But this is tricky stuff - glass is probably recycled at a higher rate but the energy involved in recycling glass means it's probably best avoided!
Need to avoid as much as possible in the first place. Its the toiletries aisle that gets me - all sorts of pointless chemical goop in plastic containers.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Global warming dire situation:
Ocean water is rushing miles underneath the ‘Doomsday Glacier’ with potentially dire impacts on sea level rise
2hats
Dust.
A more tightly focused article concerning the matter...
news.uci.edu
The original research work to be found here - DOI:10.1073/pnas.2404766121.
The other, BAS, research work mentioned is detailed here:
www.bas.ac.uk
with paper here - DOI:10.1029/2024GL109265.
The main point being that we are probably overlooking one or more inputs into models and so under-predicting the rate of glacier erosion/collapse and thus, likely, the rate of sea level rise.
UC Irvine-led team uncovers ‘vigorous melting’ at Antarctica’s Thwaites Glacier
Satellite radar data show kilometer-scale seawater intrusion, causing ice to rise and fall
The other, BAS, research work mentioned is detailed here:
Record low Antarctic sea ice ‘extremely unlikely’ without climate change - British Antarctic Survey
Scientists find the record-low levels of Antarctic sea ice around Antarctica in 2023 were extremely unlikely to happen without climate change.
www.bas.ac.uk
The main point being that we are probably overlooking one or more inputs into models and so under-predicting the rate of glacier erosion/collapse and thus, likely, the rate of sea level rise.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Only May and blazing heat from global warming:
www.yahoo.com
It's so hot in Mexico that howler monkeys are falling dead from the trees
It’s so hot in Mexico that howler monkeys are falling dead from the trees. At least 138 of the midsize primates, who are known for their roaring vocal calls, were found dead in the Gulf Coast state of Tabasco since May 16, according to the Biodiversity Conservation of The Usumacinta group...
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Humans have 2 years left ‘to save the world’ says UN climate chief as he presses for faster action
He suggested that climate action is not just for powerful people to address — in a not-so-veiled reference to the electoral calendar this year.
2 years; the clock is ticking, folks....
At least things are moving in the right direction, albeit very slowly.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
We may've been fooled:
Critics call out plastics industry over "fraud of plastic recycling"
Only 5 to 6% of plastic waste produced in the U.S. is actually recycled. A new report accuses the plastics industry of a decades-long campaign to "mislead" the public about the viability of recycling.
I don’t think the complete lack of transparency re: recycling is an accident.
Getting figures out of my local recycling company is like pulling hen’s teeth. Mostly they focus on extolling the benefits of incineration…
bcuster
Well-Known Member
I've since read other items that indicate, at least in the US, plastic recycling is a fraud on the consumer...I don’t think the complete lack of transparency re: recycling is an accident.
Getting figures out of my local recycling company is like pulling hen’s teeth. Mostly they focus on extolling the benefits of incineration…
8ball
Decolonise colons!
This is my suspicion too, though I haven’t read into it in depth.
Jennaonthebeach
What would Picard do?
I worked as an environmentalist until 2020 and i always took the view that we should be ending mass use of plastic immediately. Even if recycling worked, the product made of recycled materials will more than likely end up dumped in the ocean - or some other vital eco system - so recycling only delays the inevitable. and then you quickly get to the point where the material is no longer recyclable and you have to burn it, or fling it in the ocean, or some other delicate eco system.
bcuster
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rising sea level and stronger 
www.yahoo.com
Their Florida ‘Paradise’ Keeps Flooding, but Some Can’t Afford a Solution
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — Hurricane Idalia came ashore last August some 200 miles north of Jennifer Connell-Wandstrat’s neighborhood in St. Petersburg, Florida, but her ranch-style home flooded with 9 inches of water that ruined her appliances, doors, dry wall, floors and furniture. She still...
Kid_Eternity
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
We've breached 1.5c many times in the last year which means we're well on our way to 2c. If we hit that 3c is within shot. 5c is extinction...
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Earth breach's Paris Agreement's warming threshold
Earth breaks heat records for a full year
The European Union’s climate change service announced yesterday that the world had just broken a full year of consecutive monthly heat records.What else: May was also the 11th consecutive month in which the global average temperature was at least 1.5 degrees Celsius above the preindustrial average — a key target in the Paris Agreement. [CBS News]
What it means: Experts said that while a single year above that threshold doesn’t technically breach the agreement, it shows that we’re inching closer to extended periods above it. [Fox Weather]
Severe weather: Climate change has already created increasingly unpredictable weather swings and major heat waves, which researchers say will continue to worsen amid rising temperatures. [AP]
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
no. it's not one year that matters, it's breached over a longer period of time. please don't spread utter bollocks, things are bad enough without that
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Rising seas wiped out an entire US ... for the first time. Scientist's say it’s a sign of things to come
bcuster
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Global warming causing ice melt which is causing rise i continents:
Antarctica is shedding weight, allowing the continent to rise from the ocean somewhat like a once-squished sponge now free to expand again.
That weight is its ice.
The process is called post-glacial uplift, and new research suggests it will have a massive impact on future global sea level rise. It could reduce Antarctica's contribution by up to 40 percent, or it could make things far worse, depending on how much heat-trapping, ice-melting fossil fuels we continue to let loose.
www.sciencealert.com
Antarctica is shedding weight, allowing the continent to rise from the ocean somewhat like a once-squished sponge now free to expand again.
That weight is its ice.
The process is called post-glacial uplift, and new research suggests it will have a massive impact on future global sea level rise. It could reduce Antarctica's contribution by up to 40 percent, or it could make things far worse, depending on how much heat-trapping, ice-melting fossil fuels we continue to let loose.
One of Earth's Continents Is Rising Up, And The Effects Could Be Huge
Antarctica is shedding weight, allowing the continent to rise from the ocean somewhat like a once-squished sponge now free to expand again.
www.sciencealert.com
Yuwipi Woman
Whack-A-Mole Queen
With any luck, by the time we hit 3c, so many of us will die off that carbon output will drop precipitously and avoid our extinction. Civilization will be toast though.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
To be fair, you could still ski on that. For a few seconds anyway.
bluescreen
tofu eating wokerati
Fuxache, FBM, I know you delight in contrariness, but this is a bit much.
This whole business is a nightmare, tbh.
This whole business is a nightmare, tbh.
farmerbarleymow
I'm Petee's spirit animal
Its a joke. This thread is gloomy (rightly so), so some light relief is sometimes needed.Fuxache, FBM, I know you delight in contrariness, but this is a bit much.
This whole business is a nightmare, tbh.
bcuster
Well-Known Member
‘The ocean is overflowing’: UN chief issues global SOS as new reports warn Pacific sea-level rise outstrips global average
UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres issued a global SOS – “Save Our Seas” – from the Pacific Island nation of Tonga on Tuesday with a plea to the world to “massively increase finance and support for vulnerable countries” in grave danger of the human-caused climate crisis.
I'd've been more than a little more concerned than I already am were to live on an island nation...
bcuster
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Climate Change Is Making ‘Last Chance Tourism’ More Popular, and Riskier
An American tourist was visiting an ice cave in one of Europe’s largest national parks last month when a frozen arch collapsed, killing him and injuring his girlfriend. While the accident in Iceland cannot be directly linked to climate change, experts say that, as temperatures increase, the...
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