Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[Wookey]

Not only The Guardian. I lost respect for a number of friends who pretty much said the same, albeit sometimes slightly cloaked.

If you quote the bit you're talking about it would make more sense to me Lynn. x

 

[butchersapron]

What made you turn from criticising people for saying 'fuck you greece' to chanting very loudly 'fuck you greece' wookey?

 

[TopCat]

What made you turn from criticising people for saying 'fuck you greece' to chanting very loudly 'fuck you greece' wookey?

All those declared anti capitalists getting right into the four freedoms...

 

[Wookey]

What made you turn from criticising people for saying 'fuck you greece' to chanting very loudly 'fuck you greece' wookey?

Where am I chanting that?

E2A: I'll overlook the fact that you've grabbed a quote from a three year old thread on a different subject, for now. I reserve the right to unilaterally withdraw from that position with no notice.

 

[Pickman's model]

If you quote the bit you're talking about it would make more sense to me Lynn. x

It makes perfect sense you dullard

 

[butchersapron]

Where am I chanting that?

E2A: I'll overlook the fact that you've grabbed a quote from a three year old thread on a different subject, for now. I reserve the right to unilaterally withdraw from that position with no notice.

It was directly related - indeed it was in a thread about the referendum result and if leave voters were racist and you gleefully characterised people taking the position that you now support as saying 'fuck you greece'.

 

[brogdale]

Unsurprisingly, a 'Plan C' needed.

 

[Wookey]

It was directly related - indeed it was in a thread about the referendum result and if leave voters were racist and you gleefully characterised people taking the position that you now support as saying 'fuck you greece'.

It's cross-thread baiting.

I'll ask again, where have I chanted very loudly "fuck you Greece".

Or, to be generous, what have I said that you have interpreted so, and how did you get there?

 

[butchersapron]

It's cross-thread baiting.

I'll ask again, where have I chanted very loudly "fuck you Greece".

Or, to be generous, what have I said that you have interpreted so, and how did you get there?

You need only follow the post that i linked to and scroll down a few.

 

[Wookey]

You need only follow the post that i linked to and scroll down a few.

Mate, that's like homework.

 

[butchersapron]

Dilettante.

 

[Dogsauce]

Why the fuck is May trying to fix the backstop issue? That’ll bring maybe a couple of dozen on board, she needs to overturn a 230 vote defeat. Futile. She basically needs to fuck off, her deal is going nowhere.

 

[Duncan2]

What was it Ken said? "bloody difficult woman"?

 

[butchersapron]

Why the fuck is May trying to fix the backstop issue? That’ll bring maybe a couple of dozen on board, she needs to overturn a 230 vote defeat. Futile. She basically needs to fuck off, her deal is going nowhere.

No ones else's is either. It's not her that's the problem.

 

[TopCat]

No ones else's is either. It's not her that's the problem.

It's getting interesting. May has no alternative but to plough on. She is doing what the Greeks did not have the support or balls to do. Hilariously it's the last thing she wants to do.

 

[butchersapron]

It's getting interesting. May has no alternative but to plough on. She is doing what the Greeks did not have the support or balls to do. Hilariously it's the last thing she wants to do.

The idea of her staring down the EU when Syriza and tsipras already buckled is one for the ages.

(There's a reason that Farage is a hero in greece as well).

 

[TopCat]

May has the support for a EU exit. Syrizia never ever did.

 

[butchersapron]

May has the support for a EU exit. Syrizia never ever did.

I'm on about the bottle from the leaders.

She's entirely trapped. They had room to do stuff

 

[TopCat]

I'm on about the bottle from the leaders.

She's entirely trapped. They had room to do stuff

Agreed. She really has nowhere to go but tragedy and farce and eventual resignation. Uncharted waters indeed. LLetsa would fucking love this.

 

[butchersapron]

Agreed. She really has nowhere to go but tragedy and farce and eventual resignation. Uncharted waters indeed. LLetsa would fucking love this.

LLETSA would say - as he did for the 20+ years i talked to him - nothing is happening. Even though it's now literally happening. Nothing changes or can change.

 

[Ranbay]

 

[ska invita]

Why the fuck is May trying to fix the backstop issue? That’ll bring maybe a couple of dozen on board, she needs to overturn a 230 vote defeat. Futile. She basically needs to fuck off, her deal is going nowhere.

Quite. I was reading this
May's deal is dead as a dodo - Weekly Worker
which doesn't add anything new really, but has this analogy which i like

"Watching Theresa May’s progress as prime minister is bizarre. The oddity of it consists in her behaving as if she has some clever move saved up for later, except that she does not - like a poker player going all in on a pair of twos. Except that everybody knows she has no way out, so it is as if our poker player, before betting, had inadvertently dropped their cards face up on the table, picked them up, and wagered the family silver anyway."

Seems to me her clever move is to fillibuster to the deadline and pray for a miracle. I note they're trying to push back the 29th January vote as not a real vote. And there'll more re-votes and re-hashes to come it seems. Grind down the opposition. Throw in the odd shit bribe and tweak. No chance of working and a waste of everyone's time. I guess the interesting bit is at what point exactly will the final crunch happen.

 

[treelover]

Labour calls for vote in Commons on holding second referendum

Labour calls for vote on 2nd ref, constructive ambiguity over? How will this impact on their pro leave vote.

 

[butchersapron]

No one else has better cards or it would be game over

 

[Duncan2]

There is something reminiscent of "Being There" in it for sure.(intending to reply to ska there)

 

[butchersapron]

Labour calls for vote in Commons on holding second referendum

Labour calls for vote on 2nd ref, constructive ambiguity over? How will this impact on their pro leave vote.

It doesn't call for a second vote. It's to kill the idea.

 

[TopCat]

It doesn't call for a second vote. It's to kill the idea.

Thank fuck.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

It doesn't call for a second vote. It's to kill the idea.

this is all getting a bit zen - not calling for a second vote by calling for a second vote

 

[butchersapron]

this is all getting a bit zen - not calling for a second vote by calling for a second vote

But it doesn't at all. The MP numbers are not there. It's there to show that.

The only bit of that press release designed as news is:

The group is planning to take the argument further at a news conference on Tuesday, fronted by Labour MPs David Lammy and Bridget Phillipson with Liberal Democrat deputy leader Jo Swinson and Caroline Lucas, the Green party leader in Westminster.

 

[TopCat]

What's the collective noun for that lot?