There was some talk early on about current British passport holders being able to pay for some kind of EU citizenship extension to their passport. But it seems to have been nonsense.
But isn't birth geography the basis for much citizenship/passport holding with state entities?
Yes. And it’s an interesting point. In fact, it’s something that fucks with nationalist fundamentalism, so I’d quite like it to be pulled about in the courts.
It just shows how slippery those words are. In one sense, bureaucratic credentials are only verified identity you have. Passport, driving license, birth certificate, council tax bills. These are “ID”. So it’s not surprising people get confused about what “identity” actually means.
The point Brogdale raises is that anyone born in the UK after the UK joined the precursor organisation to the EU might claim they are “EU nationals”.
yes we've been through this already
The EU isn't a nation.
Yes, I know. But the lack of precision is a problem. The British Isles will continue to be part of Europe even when the UK nation-state leaves the EU. So in that sense residents on these islands will continue to be “people from Europe”.
Was here:
As Tommers said, seems that not being a nation state would put a block to it.
I'm not entirely convinced. When states can get tricky with things like tax havens and the vatican, surely the EU could create a nation state the size of a postage stamp somewhere in their car park and offer all the remainers a citizenship (and let any citizen from any other EU nation apply while they're at it).. Would keep everyone happy and serve as a prototype/ forerunner to fast track federal expansion and all these 'reforms' that everyone keeps pipe-dreaming about, but never actually get off the ground.
Of course one of the purposes/advantages of the EU (and other trans-national entities) is that like states it facilities the exploitation of labour but does not have to accede to the same level of social contract that states are still required to do.
Yes, the 'contract' being at one remove from the people; nation states giving up (sharing) sovereignty in return for free market/neoliberal security.
It's all a huge clusterfuck
Almost needs its own descriptive term, doesn't it?
Brexitopocalypse
It won't; the economic terrorists will not easily be weaned from their BoT secrecy regimes.
