Is Brexit actually going to happen?

[teuchter]

Arsonists rarely receive insurance payouts.

Invalid analogy.

 

[pocketscience]

I do wonder whether overall this has been something of a boon stability-wise for the EU, in that its amply demonstrated to some of the more recalcitrant populations what happens when even a relatively big player tries to break away from the bloc.

hmmm. not so sure about that. Everyone was singing the praises of EU stability after the french and dutch elections earlier in the year. Then brussels collectively shat their pants when the AFD did so well in German elections in autumn.
If the Germans get any more eurosceptic the games up with Brussels. What with all the talk of Schultz forcing Merkel to make a grand coalition back EU federalism we could see Euroscepticism go off the charts. Germany's done very nicely with the satus quo - i.e profiting from the poorer nations position - there's a huge portion of the german population that would prefer to grab the money and run rather than have all those southern debts put on them and have thier tax cash decided upon by some portugese or italian in Brussels.

 

[Mr Moose]

I don't really get why people are going on about NF's pension. What logic, moral or otherwise, says that he shouldn't recieve it?

Because he did fuck all for it? He didn’t represent the UK, he didn’t contribute to the EU’s work or explain it’s decisions. It’s also massive hypocrisy.

 

[gosub]

Because he did fuck all for it? He didn’t represent the UK, he didn’t contribute to the EU’s work or explain it’s decisions. It’s also massive hypocrisy.

He did just not in a constructive manner.
Hard to say he didn't represent the UK when iirc they were our largest party there... And the only party to be fully on the winning side of the referendum.


Still a cunt though

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Hard to say he didn't represent the UK when iirc they were our largest party there

Largest party only since 2014, but yeah he's been there since 1999.

I'm not a great big fan of retroactively stripping people of their pension rights, even massive cunts.

 

[butchersapron]

hmmm. not so sure about that. Everyone was singing the praises of EU stability after the french and dutch elections earlier in the year. Then brussels collectively shat their pants when the AFD did so well in German elections in autumn.
If the Germans get any more eurosceptic the games up with Brussels. What with all the talk of Schultz forcing Merkel to make a grand coalition back EU federalism we could see Euroscepticism go off the charts. Germany's done very nicely with the satus quo - i.e profiting from the poorer nations position - there's a huge portion of the german population that would prefer to grab the money and run rather than have all those southern debts put on them and have thier tax cash decided upon by some portugese or italian in Brussels.

Xtimes-people knowing that many germans think that. The game is at least on edge.

 

[Raheem]

I don't really get why people are going on about NF's pension. What logic, moral or otherwise, says that he shouldn't recieve it?

No, there's no logic says he in particular shouldn't get it. But there's a certain amount of hypocrisy if someone's been (a) spending a decade decrying the EU gravy train and (b) spending a year insisting that Britain doesn't have to be responsible for, inter alia, MEPs' ongoing pensions.

 

[dweller]

I don't really get why people are going on about NF's pension. What logic, moral or otherwise, says that he shouldn't recieve it?

He insists that we should pay no divorce bill.
The divorce bill includes money for MEPs pensions.
Hence he is in effect asking to not be paid a pension.

 

[butchersapron]

Every boring cunt who does't understand why or give a doesn't shit about dealing with why it happened on this thread last 20 pages.

 

[butchersapron]

wtf happened here - it's not like there's a shortfall of dull liberal pro-eu commentary with dull neo-liberal assumptions out there.

Why are you here?

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Every boring cunt who does't understand why or give a doesn't shit about dealing with why it happened on this thread last 20 pages.

Cogent, incisive analysis as always. C'mon, make an effort to explain to us lesser mortals at least occasionally.

 

[butchersapron]

Cogent, incisive analysis as always. C'mon, make an effort to explain to us lesser mortals at least occasionally.

Explain what? Every post is from posh people talking about how it effects them in some parody of involvement. Not a single one about what drove brexit - because, we're out the picture already. It's the posh remainers brexit as much as the posh brexiters brexit. This disgusting thread shows it.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

Explain what? Every post is from posh people talking about how it effects them in some parody of involvement. Not a single one about what drove brexit - because, we're out the picture already. It's the posh remainers brexit as much as the posh brexiters brexit. This disgusting thread shows it.

What on earth is your definition of posh here?

 

[butchersapron]

What on earth is your definition of posh here?

For this, winot and loom.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

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Explain what? Every post is from posh people talking about how it effects them in some parody of involvement. Not a single one about what drove brexit - because, we're out the picture already. It's the posh remainers brexit as much as the posh brexiters brexit. This disgusting thread shows it.

Fuck off. You don't get to tell who is posh or not or whose is concern is not

You have a totally unrealistic idea about people's concerns. Your absurd dismissal of their ideas as 'posh' shows that.

Come here to London and tell us that. You don't have the first idea what it is to be struggling in London.

 

[Smangus]

What on earth is your definition of posh here?

anyone with an opinion by the looks of it

 

[Raheem]

It's the posh remainers brexit as much as the posh brexiters brexit.

You may be onto something here. I guess no-one would have predicted it, but it suddenly looks unlikely to turn out to be a prole's Brexit. Or not so suddenly.

 

[butchersapron]

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Fuck off. You don't get to tell who is posh or not or whose is concern is not

You have a totally unrealistic idea about people's concerns. Your absurd dismissal of their ideas as 'posh' shows that.

Come here to London and tell us that. You don't have the first idea what it is to be struggling in London.

Come here to london. Are you serious - i live on a fucking campbed at work for 5 days a week? I'm 47. I'm homeless. I get £112 a week. You private school boy try to privilege me?

Also, your outraged post failed to have anything to do with my post.

 

[littlebabyjesus]

Us Londoners have it easy eh.

Don't try to out 'I'm fucked up than you me' than me. Really. You don't have a fucking clue.

 

[butchersapron]

Us Londoners have it easy eh.

Don't try to out 'I'm fucked up than you me' than me. Really. You don't have a fucking clue.

Who said any such thing? I didn't.

 

[butchersapron]

Us Londoners have it easy eh.

Don't try to out 'I'm fucked up than you me' than me. Really. You don't have a fucking clue.

Are you gonna beat me? Go on.

 

[butchersapron]

What would £112 a week get you lbj? In london.

 

[SaskiaJayne]

Every boring cunt who does't understand why or give a doesn't shit about dealing with why it happened on this thread last 20 pages.

Why it happened is the history of governments in the the UK since about 1980. Fuck me you are as bad as Stan when you are pissed.

 

[TheHoodedClaw]

What would £112 a week get you lbj? In london.

Enough cans to be quite pissed?

Edit: Nowt wrong with that like, I hasten to add

 

[Slo-mo]

Come here to london. Are you serious - i live on a fucking campbed at work for 5 days a week? I'm 47. I'm homeless. I get £112 a week. You private school boy try to privilege me?

Also, your outraged post failed to have anything to do with my post.

Whilst I don't want to pry into the circumstances of a complete stranger on a buletin board, why do you only get £112 a week if you work 5 days a week?

 

[Santino]

Us Londoners have it easy eh.

"We Londoners..."

 

[SaskiaJayne]

Gove appears to be positioning himself for PM sometime in the future. Gove says voters can change Brexit deal it could read as his suggesting a Tory leadership at next GE offering to make brexit harder whereas Labour might be offering a softer version. I suppose it’s a clever move? It’s pointless the hard brexitiers continuing to rail against the government’s compromise of paying £billions etc so let the voters decide at next GE?

It does rather assume though that at next GE voters main priority will be brexit & not housing & the NHS.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Whilst I don't want to pry into the circumstances of a complete stranger on a buletin board, why do you only get £112 a week if you work 5 days a week?

Performance related pay for LibDem campaign manager.

 

[SpookyFrank]

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Fuck off. You don't get to tell who is posh or not or whose is concern is not.

You've not encountered Butchers before then I take it? Telling other people who they are and what comcerns them is pretty much his entire job around here.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Whilst I don't want to pry into the circumstances of a complete stranger on a buletin board, why do you only get £112 a week if you work 5 days a week?

Because he lives in the 1930s.