Identity Politics: the impasse, the debate, the thread.
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I look forward to every word being interrogated, Derrida-style.
Now we move on to the first heading. What do we suppose the authors mean by “Introduction”? Do they merely mean preamble? And don’t forget that amble can also mean a stroll: are we being invited to stroll with them? Of course in introducing us to the subject, they could be making the assumption that they already know the subject while we do not. This is a patronising tone to begin with. Indeed, one might say more a gamble than an amble.
Now we move on to the first heading. What do we suppose the authors mean by “Introduction”? Do they merely mean preamble? And don’t forget that amble can also mean a stroll: are we being invited to stroll with them? Of course in introducing us to the subject, they could be making the assumption that they already know the subject while we do not. This is a patronising tone to begin with. Indeed, one might say more a gamble than an amble.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Ohh get over yourself. Titles are a political decision, they state the parameters of the topic under discussion. So they’re quite important.
Really, what is the point of ‘a contribution to the debate’? It’s either obvious and thus pointless, or it undermines the previous titles.
Really, what is the point of ‘a contribution to the debate’? It’s either obvious and thus pointless, or it undermines the previous titles.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That’s the spirit. There’s probably several more pages to be had from the titles.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Somebody have a go at the graphics.
andysays
Love and solidarity
I haven't actually looked at it yet, but was about to ask about the typeface before I commit myself to doing so...
Athos
Well-Known Member
To me, the subtext is recognising that there's a debate to be had amongst the left, rather than it being a dogmatic assertion.
A380
How do I change this 'custom title' thing then?
Yeah, would sell more if it was titled " Harry Potter and the the Politics of Division: An engagement with identity politics A contribution to the debate."
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That was precisely the intention of the committee.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
If this is the way you 'engage' with the debate in the pamphlet, then it seems a pretty one -sided 'engagement'.
(If I was being really fussy, I'd also have pointed out that it is silly to capitalise Identity but not Politics in the first subtitle. One or the other, that's basic)
(If I was being really fussy, I'd also have pointed out that it is silly to capitalise Identity but not Politics in the first subtitle. One or the other, that's basic)
Athos
Well-Known Member
That's precisely the difference between debate and discussion.
The red side of the divide is populated by almost formless caricatures behind a single flag while the green side feels lived in by fully formed individuals with not only two flags but a placard no doubt emblazoned with a humorous slogan to promote a single issue imbued with deep personal meaning. The hyper individualism of the green further symbolised by the a single strand of hair highlighted against the background versus the bleakness across the divide their dull bureaucratic styles squeezed of all vitality by the cold hand of the red dictatorship. I reject both the bleak suppression of the human spirit and the atomisation so inherent to late capitalism presented here as all there is.
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Red versus green hey? Are you suggesting it's not possible to be both a socialist and a green? What kind of fucked up artificial divisions are you sowing here? It's just needlessly antagonistic, can't we call just get along?
Athos
Well-Known Member
And not very inclusive to our colourblind comrades
And what about the Irish colleens, eh?
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
Shameless plug - but for those in the West Riding and nearby, this and other great material/badly titled reactionary propaganda will be available at the Bradford Anarchist Bookfair - September 4th, 1in12 club, 11-4.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
To be fair, that’s what I call graphics.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Christ, imagine the row when we’ve all actually read the fucking pamphlet! 
Kevbad the Bad
Amiable Bowel Syndrome
As a person of colour blindness I'm not sure I should read it, after all the adverse publicity.Christ, imagine the row when we’ve all actually read the fucking pamphlet!
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I’m tempted to wait for a reprint in the hope that ACG sticks Belboid’s comments on the back:
‘Silly’ ‘pointless titles’ ‘basic capitalisation errors’ etc
‘Silly’ ‘pointless titles’ ‘basic capitalisation errors’ etc
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
you could at least use the correct case on my name, you fucker. I'm an anti-capitalist, you know
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I knew you wouldn’t be able to resist…!
charlie mowbray
The Enforcer
PDF of ACG ID Politics pamphlet is now available for £1 from ACG website.
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
The Politics of Division: An engagement with identity politics: A contribution to the debate: A PDF.
(Also, on a proofreading note, the text on the website looks alright in my laptop browser, but on my mobile the line spacing's all over the place, makes it look like modernist poetry or something.)
(Also, on a proofreading note, the text on the website looks alright in my laptop browser, but on my mobile the line spacing's all over the place, makes it look like modernist poetry or something.)
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