Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i knowOH MY GOD YOUR WORSE THAN A BANK ROBBER
I Got Banged In The Arse By SW Trains For £32
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fredfelt
Mostly unknown member
Shit, you don't know me, do you?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there are as yet undiscovered tribes in the amazon rainforest who are familiar with your ways.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
But the people who buy the cheap A to C tickets will still be on the train between B and C. So if the problem is overcrowding between B and C, selling cheap A to C tickets will make that problem worse, not better.
If they were selling cheap tickets from A to B and then the people who bought them refused to get off the train until C, then the train company would have some cause to be upset. As it is they just create counterintuitive rules on purpose to try and stitch people up and get extra money out of them.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Yes, you're violating Rule Number One of the universe; don't go to Slough.
Pingu
Credo
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
Well, TBF, not so much INCORRECT as "failing to think exactly like him". Heaven forfend that nuance and subjectivity should have any part to play in human interaction.People are being INCORRECT. About TRAINS. He's on a perpetual wobbler until this abomination is brought to a halt.
"simples" 
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
I've bolded the bits that make things confusing.
A journey I occasionally make is London to Falmer, when I look at tickets for that there are lots of ticket options depending on the time of day, which London station I'm travelling from, etc. Admittedly it's not that difficult to work it out, but it's far from being clear.
deadringer
meat pie sausage roll
The vagueness that is you can board a peak service and it be counted as off peak if it arrives in its destination off peak I'm still trying to get to grips with......
What I think you fail to appreciate is that most people neither know nor care what a TOC is, nor understand why it's possible to pay such wildly different amounts for the same journey, and why some tickets come with so many restrictions attached. Therefore, a lot of people don't really know their way around the ticketing system, and either pay over the odds or get caught out by some abstruse restriction as the OP did. Frankly, it is pretty daft to penalise someone for travelling one station short of where they'd bought the ticket for.
The system is complicated now because of the plethora of special fares, which means that booking can be time-consuming. I know my way around it reasonably well but a few weeks ago it took me the best part of an hour of juggling times and routes on East Coast's website to sort out a journey from Hull to Exeter at a price I was happy with.
There's no point steaming at the ears when people complain about all this, still less accusing them of ignorance or having a chip on the shoulder. The fact is that most people just aren't interested in railways - and there's no reason why they should be.
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Puddy_Tat
naturally fluffy
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Where you fares are really going.
http://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2014/aug/02/train-fares-rail-price-hike
http://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/2014/aug/02/train-fares-rail-price-hike
Maggot
The Cake of Liberty
Also from the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/aug/01/best-worst-train-tickets-rail-fare
Which includes this bit.
Which includes this bit.
Stop crying.
telbert
Do you like sponge?
Last week i had to travel home from a days work at Overton (one stop past basingstoke) into Waterloo.The ticket office was closed when i got to the station at about 1:30 pm,the ticket machine wouldnt accept payment for the ticket (£25:60) from my debit card or the £50 note i had. There was no permit to travel machine and the advice i got from the intercom on the help point was "yeah just get a permit to travel from the machine"after telling him twice there wasnt a fucking machine.The ticket inspecter/guard on the train had only £10 in change for the day so couldnt give me a ticket but he advised me to go straight to the barrier at Waterloo and i'll be able to get a ticket there without incuring the £20 fine.At the barrier i explained the whole series of failures to another guard who looked about twelve and she said "we're short staffed and aint got no one to issue you with a ticket here,i'll let you through the barriers so you can walk all the way to the ticket office at the other end of the concourse and get a ticket there."Tried this and they told me i could only buy a ticket there for a future journey,not one i'd already made and i should have got one at the barrier.I went home and spent £25 on cider and chinese food.Fuck South West Trains right into next fucking Tuesday.
Fingers
From Tuscany SE22
Like. Someone is going to be furious though...
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
I can see rainbow coming back to haunt someone who is not zippy.
skyscraper101
0891 50 50 50
It must be great to be Bungle. Waking up every day knowing he lives in a country with some of the world's most expensive train fares and the most confusing TOC restrictions, all neatly wrapped up by private companies beset on this kind of confusion and catch clauses to rake in even more money on top of their vast profits and annual above inflation ticket hikes.
Imagine being a tourist in Britain, trying to fathom our ticketing system that costs excessively more than most of the rest of the world, regularly runs late, and enforces ticketing restrictions that even most of the UK probably doesn't understand. And then being stung by some jobsworth because 'rules is rules' for underusing a train. What kind of shitcunt acts as an apologist for a system like that.
You should go and work for TV Licensing, they'd love you there. You get to go and harass some single mums trying to keep their kids quiet with threats of fines and prosecution for daring to put an unlicensed set on! Go get those criminals!
Imagine being a tourist in Britain, trying to fathom our ticketing system that costs excessively more than most of the rest of the world, regularly runs late, and enforces ticketing restrictions that even most of the UK probably doesn't understand. And then being stung by some jobsworth because 'rules is rules' for underusing a train. What kind of shitcunt acts as an apologist for a system like that.
You should go and work for TV Licensing, they'd love you there. You get to go and harass some single mums trying to keep their kids quiet with threats of fines and prosecution for daring to put an unlicensed set on! Go get those criminals!
You know it would help if all your perspectives weren't clouded by a political opinion that borders on the obsessive. How about some facts: the fares go up because the government wants them to go up. The profit on a rail ticket is a pittance. The "world's most expensive train fares"? Um, not really..........
http://www.seat61.com/uk-europe-train-fares-comparison.html#.U9_6dGOTIgI
You are all so obsessed with how "bad" you think privatisation is you're desperate to put the boot into the railways when ever possible. I see it all the time, any thread that comes on here about the railways, what ever the subject, someone always starts banging on about "privatisation". It's pathetic.
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
i will tell you what is pathetic is charging passengers more to go less. Please please please tell me the logic that makes it ok to charge people more for going a shorter distance. I don't think this is the first time you have been asked to justify the logic of privatised companies but for once please just answer the fucking question. Why should it cost more to go less of a distance?
Zapp Brannigan
Built like a steakhouse, handles like a bistro
Because market forces and blah blah blah.
All Bollocks. Pretty much an admission that we as people no longer pay for things, goods and services, we move money around. Which all told is pretty sad.
All Bollocks. Pretty much an admission that we as people no longer pay for things, goods and services, we move money around. Which all told is pretty sad.
