I Got Banged In The Arse By SW Trains For £32

[MrSki]

Because I speak the truth?

You speak your distorted version of the truth. Back to the old question, how can you justify charging more for a shorter distance on the same track? There is about as much truth to what you say as in the tory manifesto.

 

[Fingers]

Because I speak the truth? The rest of you are coming out with complete bollocks, that in some cases makes zero sense at all. And all because you have a bee in you bonnets about privatisation. It's pathetic.

My cat don't like your cat much and wants to give it a shoeing

 

[twentythreedom]

Whether you're right or wrong is neither here not there, bunghole, the point is you're a fucking dick

 

[5t3IIa]

 

[Citizen66]

Because I speak the truth? The rest of you are coming out with complete bollocks, that in some cases makes zero sense at all. And all because you have a bee in you bonnets about privatisation. It's pathetic.

Do you work on the railways? You sound like a snivelling jobsworth.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

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Almost. Needs more comic sans.

 

[5t3IIa]

Almost. Needs more comic sans.

 

[Zapp Brannigan]

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Much better.

 

[deadringer]

And how did you buy online under BR? YOU COULDN'T!!

And how do you have to "sign up with each different" one? You don't.

You tool.

What an earth are you on about?! I wasn't comparing it to how it was, I was complaining about how difficult it is to buy a ticket online. If I buy through National Rail Enquiry I get directed to the appropriate TOC. Then I either have to sign up or try to remember my details with them from many months possibly years ago.

Of course, maybe I could buy all my tickets from one place like the trainline. But I'm sure you wouldn't like that either.

I agree with you regarding picking up booked tickets though, it doesn't take long.

 

[Bungle73]

What an earth are you on about?! I wasn't comparing it to how it was, I was complaining about how difficult it is to buy a ticket online. If I buy through National Rail Enquiry I get directed to the appropriate TOC. Then I either have to sign up or try to remember my details with them from many months possibly years ago.

Of course, maybe I could buy all my tickets from one place like the trainline. But I'm sure you wouldn't like that either.

I agree with you regarding picking up booked tickets though, it doesn't take long.

Any train ticket retailer will sell you a ticket from anywhere to anywhere else. The only advantage to using a TOC's own website is if they give you a discount, like East Coast do.

 

[Fez909]

What I hate most about rail travel now is the fear that all this uncertainty has brought in. Until the ticket inspector has checked my ticket, I worry about having the wrong ticket for this line, using the ticket at a time when I'm not supposed to, etc. If you make an honest mistake, like buying a ticket for the wrong day, then it can cost you dearly. I got on the wrong train once and had to buy a full price ticket and it made my weekend so expensive that I was fucked for the rest of the month. On a London train it could cost you £100 extra if you had to pay the full fare.

I know these situations are avoidable and not the fault of the TOCs but it just feels like everything is so unforgiving now and the financial consequences are so high. These are paying customers that are being done over here, not people trying to travel for free. Just for simple mistakes.

 

[DotCommunist]

also the german firm running some of our rail funnels the profits back to its parent ork]g- the german state owned railway. wtf.

 

[neonwilderness]

People are being INCORRECT. About TRAINS. He's on a perpetual wobbler until this abomination is brought to a halt.

You may drink your weak lemon drink now.

What I hate most about rail travel now is the fear that all this uncertainty has brought in. Until the ticket inspector has checked my ticket, I worry about having the wrong ticket for this line, using the ticket at a time when I'm not supposed to, etc. If you make an honest mistake, like buying a ticket for the wrong day, then it can cost you dearly. I got on the wrong train once and had to buy a full price ticket and it made my weekend so expensive that I was fucked for the rest of the month. On a London train it could cost you £100 extra if you had to pay the full fare.

I know these situations are avoidable and not the fault of the TOCs but it just feels like everything is so unforgiving now and the financial consequences are so high. These are paying customers that are being done over here, not people trying to travel for free. Just for simple mistakes.

Yeah, when you search for a ticket you're presented with a load of options with minimal info on what the differences are. It's far from being 'simples'.

 

[Bungle73]

You may drink your weak lemon drink now.


Yeah, when you search for a ticket you're presented with a load of options with minimal info on what the differences are. It's far from being 'simples'.

It tells you which trains, from the times you have selected, it is valid on, and if there are any TOC related restrictions. What other info do you want?

 

[Fez909]

It tells you which trains, from the times you have selected, it is valid on, and if there are any TOC related restrictions. What other info do you want?

My ticket says "off peak return". I don't know when peak and off-peak times are, and they weren't advertised on the ticket machine either.

 

[neonwilderness]

My ticket says "off peak return". I don't know when peak and off-peak times are, and they weren't advertised on the ticket machine either.

Yep, this is one of my main issues. I think the times are different on certain routes too

 

[Fez909]

Yep, this is one of my main issues. I think the times are different on certain routes too

I just Googled it and they are!

So how are you meant to know whether you can buy an off-peak ticket?!

 

[Bungle73]

My ticket says "off peak return". I don't know when peak and off-peak times are, and they weren't advertised on the ticket machine either.

If you bought it from a website it should tell you the first train you can catch (assuming you told it you were travelling in the morning). If you bought from a ticket office the member of staff should tell you. But Peak and Off Peak tickets are nothing new, they've been around for decades.

Yep, this is one of my main issues. I think the times are different on certain routes too

In and around London it's generally after 9:30am. If you go further out it can be earlier, eg I can catch any train timed to arrive in central London after 10am, which in practice means the earliest I can catch is the 9:03am. It would be unfair, and an inconvenience, to those living further out if it was 9:30am for everyone.

Bottom line is if you're travelling after 9:30am you should be safe. There is no Peak at weekend and bank holidays.

It's complicated by the fact that certain TOCs have started restricting the use of Off Peak tickets out of London in the evening. I don't think it applies to the return half of a Return though, but I'm not sure.

Off Peak Returns (ie non-day tickets) usually aren't valid until 10am, but that is an anachronism dating back to BR days.

 

[5t3IIa]

I can book any train ticket to anywhere in the UK for a nominal fee off the same website. Piece of piss, invoice in the post.

 

[Monkeygrinder's Organ]

You may drink your weak lemon drink now.

I did think about making that comparison.

 

[Callie]

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ahh man I never knew how funny it would be to make some of these with things that have been said at work. im nearly crying with laughter but im fairly sure ill be shot if i get caught

 

[5t3IIa]

ahh man I never knew how funny it would be to make some of these with things that have been said at work. im nearly crying with laughter but im fairly sure ill be shot if i get caught

Do it. Crapper and more non-sequiterial the better

 

[Citizen66]

My ticket says "off peak return". I don't know when peak and off-peak times are, and they weren't advertised on the ticket machine either.

There's also super off peak.

 

[fredfelt]

Bungle73 could you answer a question for me please?

A ticket inspector on a train sold me a ticket and let me use my network rail card as I can't buy tickets from my local station. The conductor was very helpful and suggested that I get a split ticket so I could make use of my rail card for part of my journey and full price for the rest of the journey as the rail card covers a particular area which I was travelling out of.

On my return trip the train didn't stop at the station where the ticket inspector split my ticket. Fortunately when my tickets were inspected on the return trip the no comment was made. Generally I find ticket inspectors to be friendly and helpful - and give you a degree of flexibility over and above that the actual conditions are.

Anyway, I'm rambling. My question is, if you get a split ticket does the train actually need to stop at the station?


Another question. A hypothetical one. I often travel between two stations which don't have barriers or ticket machines, nor are they staffed. I don't plan these trips so the only way I could pay is retrospectively when I get to a ticket office. Assuming you were in the same situation would you go out of your way to buy a ticket?

 

[Bungle73]

Bungle73 could you answer a question for me please?

A ticket inspector on a train sold me a ticket and let me use my network rail card as I can't buy tickets from my local station. The conductor was very helpful and suggested that I get a split ticket so I could make use of my rail card for part of my journey and full price for the rest of the journey.

On my return trip the train didn't stop at the station where the ticket inspector split my ticket. Fortunately when my tickets were inspected on the return trip the no comment was made. Generally I find ticket inspectors to be friendly and helpful - and give you a degree of flexibility over and above that the actual conditions are.

Anyway, I'm rambling. My question is, if you get a split ticket does the train actually need to stop at the station?

Yes, it does. That is one of the key restrictions on split tickets. However, there is an exception, and that is if one of the tickets is a season ticket, or the two tickets are a London Travelcard and a Boundary Zone ticket.

Another question. A hypothetical one. I often travel between two stations which don't have barriers or ticket machines, nor are they staffed. I don't plan these trips so the only way I could pay is retrospectively when I get to a ticket office. Assuming you were in the same situation would you go out of your way to buy a ticket?

Well officially the conductor/guard should come round the train to issue tickets, but sometime they don't. I've been on a train on my local line between two stations that are unstaffed, and in fact have no facilities at all. The guard didn't come round so I couldn't pay the fare (it was only a pound or two). In that case I don't see what else you can do.

If the station has a Permit to Travel machine technically you are supposed to buy one of those and then swap it for a proper ticket at the earliest opportunity If you know what the fare should be you could just put that into it. I don't think they give change though.

 

[fredfelt]

Yes, it does. That is one of the key restrictions on split tickets. However, there is an exception, and that is if one of the tickets is a season ticket, or the two tickets are a London Travelcard and a Boundary Zone ticket.


Well officially the conductor/guard should come round the train to issue tickets, but sometime they don't. I've been on a train on my local line between two stations that are unstaffed, and in fact have no facilities at all. The guard didn't come round so I couldn't pay the fare (it was only a pound or two). In that case I don't see what else you can do.

If the station has a Permit to Travel machine technically you are supposed to buy one of those and then swap it for a proper ticket at the earliest opportunity If you know what the fare should be you could just put that into it. I don't think they give change though.

Thanks for the info on the split ticket. I thought they stopped the permit to travel machines. I guess around one out of ten of these trains have a conductor checking / selling tickets so I often do these short trips for free.

Sometimes I do deliberately avoid getting a ticket, but they make it too easy. On travelling to my nearest town in the morning rush hour they open a gate on the platform to avoid overcrowding. I usually have my bike with me so it's much easier to exit out of this gate which they don't usually man rather than taking my bike up and down the stairs and then queuing to buy a ticket.

It's crazy they don't usually put people with ticket machines at this side gate. It has crossed my mind that they do this to ensure that ticket sales for my local station remain low - which gives them a good excuse to close the station. It seems that every time the change the time table they reduce the service.

 

[Pickman's model]

It has crossed my mind that they do this to ensure that ticket sales for my local station remain low - which gives them a good excuse to close the station. It seems that every time the change the time table they reduce the service.

because people like you don't buy a ticket so they don't know how many people really use the station.

 

[fredfelt]

because people like you don't buy a ticket so they don't know how many people really use the station.

Yes, I'm aware of that and I do on occasion go out of my way to buy a ticket, even when there's not chance of it being inspected or no there's personal consequence of not getting one. I'll also get a return when I only need a single, it's only a few pence more.

It's a similar story with what used to be my local pub - and is now a grand house. However even with my best efforts of drinking lots of beer there I couldn't save it single handedly.

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a similar story with what used to be my local pub - and is now a grand house. However even with my best efforts of drinking lots of beer there I couldn't save it single handedly.

perhaps you should have bought a pint now and then instead of bringing in a load of cans.

 

[Citizen66]

OH MY GOD YOUR WORSE THAN A BANK ROBBER