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I Got Banged In The Arse By SW Trains For £32
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maomao
普費斯
It was supposed to be a link to all the posts you've ever made.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
kittyP
Pluviophile
This cannot be good for your health Bungle.
This has happened before. Why is absolutely everyone else wrong and you are right?
Can you not see that that is a highly unlikely scenario? That maybe you have been over reacting (well before anyone insulted you)?
That, as Neon said, stuff isn't as black and white as you seem to think?
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Sword-sticks are illegal in the UK.
How's a gent to defend himself from footpads and cutpurses, I ask you?
Um, in reply to this:
I don't see where I did anything wrong. The original complaint had zero merit.
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
It was a complaint about some petty bureaucracy which was worthy of discussion. Your reply was correct, but it was in your typical tone and things escalated from there as usual.
Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
This is good advice bungle. If you believe in privatisation, free markets, that's fine. You'll be in a minority on here, you'll get some stick, you'll give some back, but that's how things play out. However getting hung up on things like terms and conditions seems a bit different. When any business comes up with rules and regs that are at best arbitrary and counter intuitive, it's natural to get pissed off. Up to you like, but I think you should recognise that - and that it's equally natural to not spend too much time mugging up on t&c's.
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skyscraper101
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FWIW, if you have even one bone of decency in your body to hear me out Bungle, let me just break it down one more time. The train companies knowingly rely on sneaky catch clauses in order to skim revenue from honest ticket buyers. The fact they knowingly do this not being bad enough, that they do it to the very people least likely to afford to pay a fine makes it even more deplorable.
Bungle, I just can't understand how you are failing to see that the OP, like most normal people is probably an honest person who will always attempt to buy a valid ticket for a train. Yet like most of the rest of society he's being screwed by the effects of privately run network on which ticket prices are allowed to be increased year upon year above inflation and restrictions are allowed to be purposefully confusing so as to catch out as many honest people out as possible. That's not just me or you with a job and a disposable income, that could be your elderly gran, or your teenage daughter, or one of the hundreds of thousands of tourists who visit Britain every year and use what should be one of our prized assets, our rail network, which travels through some of the most beautiful countryside in the world.
Yet frustratingly the private networks who run the train services of this country are ruining it for everyone. The fact that SW Trains have sanctioned Megatrain to provide these cheap tickets in full knowledge that they will add in a ludicrous restriction which penalises someone for the underuse of a train is madness. And that then the result of this is that an honest person who is doing no wrong in the eyes of all that is sensible and rational in the world, and who is budgeting carefully to get by as we are all constantly being reminded to do, is slapped with a catch clause fine as a sort of final "Ha! fuck you" from the rail network is disgusting.
Can you not honestly see how that is not right? Are you perpetually blinded to the fact companies who act like this are the result of everything that is wrong about a capitalist society driven by corporate interests? And that with just a little bit of basic human decency, this kind of revenue generating tactic should be deemed unlawful. This isn't about catching criminals who are evading tickets here. This is about kicking honest ticket buying, trying-to-do-the-right-thing people, when they're down.
If you stand for that kind of system, then you are a cunt.
Bungle, I just can't understand how you are failing to see that the OP, like most normal people is probably an honest person who will always attempt to buy a valid ticket for a train. Yet like most of the rest of society he's being screwed by the effects of privately run network on which ticket prices are allowed to be increased year upon year above inflation and restrictions are allowed to be purposefully confusing so as to catch out as many honest people out as possible. That's not just me or you with a job and a disposable income, that could be your elderly gran, or your teenage daughter, or one of the hundreds of thousands of tourists who visit Britain every year and use what should be one of our prized assets, our rail network, which travels through some of the most beautiful countryside in the world.
Yet frustratingly the private networks who run the train services of this country are ruining it for everyone. The fact that SW Trains have sanctioned Megatrain to provide these cheap tickets in full knowledge that they will add in a ludicrous restriction which penalises someone for the underuse of a train is madness. And that then the result of this is that an honest person who is doing no wrong in the eyes of all that is sensible and rational in the world, and who is budgeting carefully to get by as we are all constantly being reminded to do, is slapped with a catch clause fine as a sort of final "Ha! fuck you" from the rail network is disgusting.
Can you not honestly see how that is not right? Are you perpetually blinded to the fact companies who act like this are the result of everything that is wrong about a capitalist society driven by corporate interests? And that with just a little bit of basic human decency, this kind of revenue generating tactic should be deemed unlawful. This isn't about catching criminals who are evading tickets here. This is about kicking honest ticket buying, trying-to-do-the-right-thing people, when they're down.
If you stand for that kind of system, then you are a cunt.
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
I don't know what you are complaining about - they got 'Bungled' fair and square
neonwilderness
What would Badgers do?
They were being incorrect about trains
MrSki
Who am I to say you're wrong
Zero merit? If you think that then I can understand that you must live in your own little world with a train set & Ivor the Engine on a loop on your DVD.
Despite a number of requests, you have still not explained why someone should be penalised for not sitting in their seat for part of a journey. I know before you repeat it that it is in the T&Cs of the ticket that you have bought. Please get of your stupid T&Cs and please explain any logical reason why this should be so? Why should it cost you more to get off at a station early or get on on at a station later. WHY WHY WHY Please explain how this can be logical. If you get cheap tickets to the cinema and think the film is crap, should you not be allowed to leave early?
I would not be surprised if these T&Cs are actually legal. Something about false imprisonment springs to mind.
Please do not reply "But they are the T&Cs you signed up for" Please expand your own mind and explain the logic that make these T&Cs reasonable to a normal human who might have signed up for them.
Thanks in advance but I hold my breathe.
existentialist
Tired and unemotional
You and AW should form a team. It'd be a 2 person self-pity circle jerk.
Bunghole you've crossed the line between being an exasperating narrow minded cock and an unpleasant bigoted arrogant nasty prick
He's just not tedious, he's entertaining as fuck - The guy can always get a thread moving - Tell me this'd have gone to seventeen pages without our B. Arguably only in the same way
milk of magnesia can get a blockage moving, but still he does get things moving in an entertaining way. Bungle73 stick to yer guns man - On this thread you're like Errol Flynn swashbuckling against about twenty wallopers - And winning with the swordplay. Just try to keep the "um's" to a minimun coz it only gives the clowns ammo.
Bunghole you've crossed the line between being an exasperating narrow minded cock and an unpleasant bigoted arrogant nasty prick
Having about twenty other posters on his case swinging fairly nasty insults his way probably had something to do with bringing out the worst in the guy though. Especially when trains are clearly a thing he's passionate about. I crossed swords with bungle ages ago over contactless cashcards (and I still say I was right about that), how can I say this though? Bungle's obviously got a bit of a bee in his bonnet about the old choo choos and deliberately riling him (which is what's happening here), well is it the way to go?
I'm no fan of privatised public transport (now there's a misnomer), but bungle though?. . He was there, now he's here - Thanks to the newly privatised railway system
Coz he bought his ticket.
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Wilf
Slouching towards Billingham
That's fair enough frances. I've had a few digs at bungle and I disagree with his every word on railways. Same time, it's bollocks to start feigning offence if he calls you a cunt - he's had a dog's abuse on this thread and all the rest.He's just not tedious, he's entertaining as fuck - The guy can always get a thread moving - Tell me this'd have gone to seventeen pages without our B. Arguably only in the same way
milk of magnesia can get a blockage moving, but still he does get things moving in an entertaining way. Bungle73 stick to yer guns man - On this thread you're like Errol Flynn swashbuckling against about twenty wallopers - And winning with the swordplay. Just try to keep the "um's" to a minimun coz it only gives the clowns ammo.
Having about twenty other posters on his case swinging fairly nasty insults his way probably had something to do with bringing out the worst in the guy though. Especially when trains are clearly a thing he's passionate about. I crossed swords with bungle ages ago over contactless cashcards (and I still say I was right about that), how can I say this though? Bungle's obviously got a bit of a bee in his bonnet about the old choo choos and deliberately riling him (which is what's happening here), well is it the way to go?
I'm no fan of privatised public transport (now there's a misnomer), but bungle though?. . He was there, now he's here - Thanks to the newly privatised railway system
Coz he bought his ticket.
Basically we need a mathematical formula - once the pursuing pack gets above x in size, you get y free cunts and z free twats. It's the signed of a civilised society.
Ya know it 
cybertect
It's grim up north (London)
The fact that it's Megatrain is nothing to do with it, other than the ticket the OP purchase is an Advance ticket (i.e. booked in advance of the journey). The same would have applied for an Advance ticket sold by SWT.
The rules are set out in the National Rail Conditions of Carriage, which apply to all train journeys and tickets, wherever they are sold.
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/static/documents/content/NRCOC.pdf
National Rail Conditions of Carriage said:
[emphasis added]
Getting on at an intermediate station is considered breaking the journey for these purposes.
That it's private companies adhering to these rules makes no difference. The rules on breaking journeys were inherited from British Rail. I got picked up on it myself by an inspector in the late 80s in similar circumstances to the OP and had to buy a new ticket.
