I am getting very annoyed with littering.

[Red Cat]

Rubbish is rubbish, it does not belong in a public place. If you rent in a shared place you don't make a mess of the common rooms. Outside should be the same.

People treat the outside as a toilet because there's little concept of a public place. Its a not-mine place.

 

[BigMoaner]

People treat the outside as a toilet because there's little concept of a public place. Its a not-mine place.

Yep, this. It doesn't extend for them. They don't see it as something they own. So you end up with immaculate expensive motors without a spec of dirt (because it's all been slung out en route). It's very base human behaviour.

 

[Winot]

some interesting questions re littering and aesthetics. why is a green field immaculate so much more pleasing on the eye (and soul?) than one filled with human refuse. it just is, isn't it? a complex coming together of values within the human creating the pleasing view. and it's sad that those values of aesthetics are absent from some, probably of no fault of their own. my attitude to public civility i think has likely come from 50% from my parents, but that's a whole other rabit hole. but a prestine public space will forever be more pleasing i think for human kind forever. thing is a lot of litter louts probably do like the clean and orderly, they wouldn;t want to go on holiday where the place is a coke can strewn shit hole. maybe some people care sometimes, some people care never, and some people care all the time, like those on the thread. it;s a values issue. how those values are constructed in teh human is whole other thread.

There’s some interesting anthropological stuff about this - read Purity and Danger by Mary Douglas - key point is definition of dirt is ‘matter out of place’. The interesting bit is that what we mean by ‘out of place’ is culturally determined.

 

[BigMoaner]

There’s some interesting anthropological stuff about this - read Purity and Danger by Mary Douglas - key point is definition of dirt is ‘matter out of place’. The interesting bit is that what we mean by ‘out of place’ is culturally determined.

Yes you can do all sorts of comparisons with different groups, historical points of time, etc. I would think cave men themselves didn't sit around in their own shit and used bones. The broom as one of the earliest inventions? of course we are trying to control the incoming flow of detris and filth of a mass, mass, mass atomised consumerist society. but i probably consume as much as the next man, but the impusle to sling my shit on the street is just not there, so i don;t think consumerism is the root cause. as someone above said, if you don't have any investment in something when you don't see it as "yours", don't even want to see it as yours, then you're more likely to fill it with trash. that would explain why even a litter lout is probably going to be pissed off if his hotel is a litter strewn shithole on holiday that he has paid for will be pissed off because it's his holiday, meanwhile spending the rest of the year filling the country with trash.

anyway, getting pointing at pot holes lib dem vibes so will shut up.

 

[fucthest8]

There's a horribly cathartic beauty to this that scares me.

The Litter Patrol moves along the lay byes of this green and pleasent land. Is that your bargin bucket on the floor, sir? Click clack

The BIN is over HERE

<Click, Clack>

Sir

 

[stavros]

Or - and hear me out - how about summary execution?

I think that once word gets around that you just get shot in the head for littering, no mitigating circumstances, no appeal, we'll see a significant improvement. We create a specific Litter Patrol to enforce. Body Cam footage has to provide unquestionable evidence, otherwise the Executing Officer gets executed too. Creates loads of jobs.

See it, sort it. <BANG!>

Can't see any way this can go wrong.

 

[hash tag]

One of the many I saw in random places on the pavement on my short journey home tonight. They can make it difficult for a fully able person to negotiate, yet alone someone with poor site, mobility, a pushchair or pram

 

[BigMoaner]

One of the many I saw in random places on the pavement on my short journey home tonight. They can make it difficult for a fully able person to negotiate, yet alone someone with poor site, mobility, a pushchair or pram
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the positioning. i mean jesus, what sort of bellend?

 

[BigMoaner]

The BIN is over HERE

<Click, Clack>

Sir


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Can we just clarify that they are still shot? Because you did stipulate in your conditions "no mitigating circumstances", so I assume that although these two litter patrol men are pointing out the bin, the offender will still get a bullet in the brain?

thanks.

 

[hash tag]

the positioning. i mean jesus, what sort of bellend?

Like I said, these things are littering our streets. On my short journey home I will probably see at least 4 more.

 

[fucthest8]

Can we just clarify that they are still shot? Because you did stipulate in your conditions "no mitigating circumstances", so I assume that although these two litter patrol men are pointing out the bin, the offender will still get a bullet in the brain?

thanks.

Ah, I was envisaging the pictured scenario as preventative - spotting someone with rubbish in their hand and making clear what the correct course of action was.

Protect and Serve, after all.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Can we just clarify that they are still shot? Because you did stipulate in your conditions "no mitigating circumstances", so I assume that although these two litter patrol men are pointing out the bin, the offender will still get a bullet in the brain?

thanks.

Shoot them, dump the carcass in the bin, if they left it on the street they'd have to shoot themselves...

 

[hash tag]

Just a couple of today's examples.

 

[Orang Utan]

Just a couple of today's examples.

Dwarfed by the amount of cars littering the streets, mind

 

[hash tag]

Dwarfed by the amount of cars littering the streets, mind

Different arguement. People expect to be able to walk on pavement without this sort of hazard. Thinks prams, wheelchairs, people with poor vision, disabilities etc.

 

[Orang Utan]

Different arguement. People expect to be able to walk on pavement without this sort of hazard. Thinks prams, wheelchairs, people with poor vision, disabilities etc.

Yes. Cars get in the way. Cos people leave them in the street

 

[hash tag]

Yes. Cars get in the way. Cos people leave them in the street

I understand now. If the cars were parked on pavements the roads would be clear for bikes.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Yes. Cars get in the way. Cos people leave them in the street

And on the pavement a lot of the time. The amount of abuse I've had shouted at me for pointing out to people that the pavement is not for their car/van/whatever is ridiculous. Like someone else said earlier, the concept of shared space that other people need to use just isn't there for a lot of people. Explain it as patiently as you like, they just look back at you like you're speaking ancient Aramaic or something.

But, but my car goes there. Look, there it is. That's where it goes. Can't you see?

 

[Elpenor]

The comparison with cars is valid as no one was ever consulted about them being introduced either

 

[Orang Utan]

I understand now. If the cars were parked on pavements the roads would be clear for bikes.

No, just pointing out the double standards you have here. You accept cars littering the streets but not smaller and less troublesome bicycles. OK. We see you.

 

[SpookyFrank]

I assume they're hire bikes in those pictures. Never seen them abandoned because the ones round here have to be returned to one of the proper stands. Otherwise what, someone with a van drives round and collects it from wherever you ditched it? That's not green transport really is it, that's just yet another way of using an app to pay some middleman to wipe your arse for you.

 

[BigMoaner]

Shared public space and shared public silence. Even when being intruded on by market forces, civility has a huge role in seeing these things as valuable, even sacred, and fought for. This is why I get so pissed off on buses where i haul my ass into work and back each day is like sitting in the ministry of sound. The silence that was once there to a large extent gone, confined to history.

 

[sealion]

One of the many I saw in random places on the pavement on my short journey home tonight. They can make it difficult for a fully able person to negotiate, yet alone someone with poor site, mobility, a pushchair or pram
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I left my flat the other day to the delights of a hire bike parked longways across a very narrow pavement, from garden wall to kerb. It takes a special kind of wankpuffin to do that.

 

[sealion]

Shoot them, dump the carcass in the bin,

I think we have a winner

 

[hash tag]

We walked to the coop, there was one. We walked back minutes later, right on a corner as well

 

[Orang Utan]

We walked to the coop, there was one. We walked back minutes later, right on a corner as well
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And yet there’s even more expensive litter here:

Haven’t seen any pics like this from yourself.

 

[stavros]

And yet there’s even more expensive litter here:
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Haven’t seen any pics like this from yourself.

I hope no one's wing mirror got fucked by careless pedestrians.

 

[hash tag]

Here's a good one, the entire pavement blocked, on a blind sharp corner, by a busy main road. The entire pavement is blocked

 

[newme]

People treat the outside as a toilet because there's little concept of a public place. Its a not-mine place.

You aren't wrong, both sides of me put up stop leaving dog shit outside my house signs. Next day there's dog shit outside mine lol. I've found it next to dog shit bins, we have 3 in a small village. Still shit on the floor.

 

[Bus Honeygun]

Bag of cement dumped on the end of our back alley.

Opposite is one builder just putting his stuff away. Two doors in the other direction there's scaffolding and another builder's lorry.

If I was a different (probably younger) person I'd be stood in the middle of the road shouting 'WHICH ONE OF YOU FUCKERS HAS DUMPED THIS CONCRETE BY OUR ALLEYWAY?!!'

But being a middle-aged bloke on beta blockers, I'm just quietly fuming instead and hoping the younger couple next door sort it out.