Hurricane Sandy - "Perfect Storm"
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Ridiculous? What?
It's not all the weather's fault though. Haiti has been politically and economically persecuted throughout its existence, because of its history. Natural disasters affect it worse than anywhere else because it has been systematically and deliberately impoverished for two centuries. The Haitian revolution was the most important, and the most potentially dangerous to Capital, in all history. They've never been forgiven for it.
temper_tantrum
The beauty of the ride
You've got yourself a false dichotomy there, Phil. It's perfectly possible to want to use this thread for news rather than dicking around like a performing seal pup in front of an adulatory audience of about 3 people, without that meaning one believes this is the biggest disaster since the Indian Ocean tsunami.
Still, keep it coming. Some folks clearly have nowt better to do than be trolled by you.
Minnie_the_Minx
someinenhhanding menbag and me ah bollox
Just for gabi
11 dead in Cuba
54 dead in Haiti
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/Hurricane Sandys death toll rises flooding continues Haiti/7460465/story.html
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
According the media I have just watched it will cost $20 billion the most expensive natural disaster in the history of. On the BBC World News on television earlier it showed the flooded lower Manhatton area with all its damage. Then they went to Times Square where they showed that apart from there being wet streets from heavy rain the lights were on and taxis were going about their business. However some very big companies have had to close down and the US Stock market will be closed for 2 days at least. This is a first they say.
Kanda
Diving wanker
NYSE was shut down in the late 1800's for 2 days due to a snow storm.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
I like how the news it's not just a storm that's hit NY, it's a SUPERSTORM!!!!
Next week....
Next week....
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
To be fair to Phil and his assertion that everythinbg will be back to normal and thos arguing with him, i wonder how many of them have been to NYC during an event like this.
Obviously this one is off the scale but NYC is a very resilient city and as much as they lack out stiff upper lip they know how to get things done.
Altho not on the same scale i have been in NYC several times in blizzards that make the worst I have seen in UK look like a light snow fall. well over a foot of snow in a copule of hours and still everyone wnet about their business and the next morning you'd wonder if it had snowed at all.
After the two tallest buildings in the world fell on the same day they had the site cleared in a matter of months. In the Uk we'd still be deciding how to clear up the mess.
Obviously this one is off the scale but NYC is a very resilient city and as much as they lack out stiff upper lip they know how to get things done.
Altho not on the same scale i have been in NYC several times in blizzards that make the worst I have seen in UK look like a light snow fall. well over a foot of snow in a copule of hours and still everyone wnet about their business and the next morning you'd wonder if it had snowed at all.
After the two tallest buildings in the world fell on the same day they had the site cleared in a matter of months. In the Uk we'd still be deciding how to clear up the mess.
You need to appreciate that cities like NY, London, Paris, LA, Tokyo etc are always going to be bigger news simply because they all have a far greater media image. They are the birth places of the modern media - they've been playing it for far longer than places like Istanbul.
We are all very familiar with images of these cities even if we have never actually visited. Films familiarise us with the people and culture. This doesn't happen in Haiti, or Istanbul on quite the same level.
The storm could have it NY directly with greater effect and a higher cost to human life and financial costs. But, it is a modern city with good resources. The storm wasn't 100% predictable. They prepared for the worst - it didn't come. The media played it for every last penny. As Dwyer points out, this is the biggest reason for a lack of coverage in Haiti - less consumers with spare cash. It is that simple.
Everyone reading here will be benefitting in some way from the system we all live in. Before anyone starts pointing fingers take a good look at yourself with your internet and gadgets.
I thought Mr Dwyers sporadic webcam fame was good fun. Seems no-one was drowning, or in need of rescue. What was the harm in it?
We are all very familiar with images of these cities even if we have never actually visited. Films familiarise us with the people and culture. This doesn't happen in Haiti, or Istanbul on quite the same level.
The storm could have it NY directly with greater effect and a higher cost to human life and financial costs. But, it is a modern city with good resources. The storm wasn't 100% predictable. They prepared for the worst - it didn't come. The media played it for every last penny. As Dwyer points out, this is the biggest reason for a lack of coverage in Haiti - less consumers with spare cash. It is that simple.
Everyone reading here will be benefitting in some way from the system we all live in. Before anyone starts pointing fingers take a good look at yourself with your internet and gadgets.
I thought Mr Dwyers sporadic webcam fame was good fun. Seems no-one was drowning, or in need of rescue. What was the harm in it?
Reno
The In Kraut
I still remember the 1987 "Michael Fish" storm in London which was of comparable strength even if, rather crucially, there wasn't much flooding. The day after looked apocalyptic, but two days later London was more or less back on its feet.
ska invita
back on the other side
Over a million people have been displaced. Tens of thousands have been moved into camps that are ill-equipped to receive them. Crop fields and fisheries in their thousands of hectares are completely flooded and destroyed. Local food shortages seem inevitable. In overcrowded camps with poor sanitation, the spread of infectious disease also seems inevitable. Nigeria right now http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn...dia-ignoring-nigeria-flooding/?iref=allsearch
Brixton Hatter
Home is south London mate
There have actually been several mentions of deaths elsewhere (Haiti, the Caribbean etc) earlier in this thread, including a few links to news reports.
gosub
~#
Wasn't on a full moon
Reno
The In Kraut
Yes, it was a blessing that there wasn't a werewolf outbreak as well.
RE: post #913 The 'Michael Fish Storm' may have had no apparent effect in London after two days had passed, but in the West Country in South Devon when I went there the following August the coastline looked very different to how it had been. Hundreds of trees along the coast had been wiped away leaving familiar landmarks changed for ever and some were still down blocking paths along the coastal woods all those months afterwards. It may not have killed many people but livelyhoods were affected in poor rural areas where there is no margin of resilience because of their economic situation. This will also be true in parts of America hit by this recent storm and flood water outside of the big cities but on a much bigger scale because of the size of the country.
Reno
The In Kraut
meant the tides at highest even without storm surge
While it was a contributing factor, the main reason why NYC got flooded so badly is that it's right by the ocean. London isn't. An ocean is a vastly lager body of water than the Thames. Not sure you've noticed that difference.
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
Hang on. We had someone on the ground in NYC giving feedback whilst it was happening and that is 'trolling'?
He can't have been lying in his account because he was on camera at the time and what he was saying was observably true.
Nanker Phelge
Leave the gun. Take the cannoli.
See what I mean.....America gets a SUPERSTORM.....we get a 'Micheal Fish Storm'
ferrelhadley
There is no love between us anymore.
You had no interest in the storms damage to Haiti until this storm hit the US.
TitanSound
Mr Beardy Drummer
Before the Thames Barrier, we had some pretty bad floods though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1928_Thames_flood
Reno
The In Kraut
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
And to be fair he was being egged on to do it by us on here!
1927
Funnier than he thinks he is.
Reno: If you are undecided whether you want to go to NYC or not I think you might be able to make a few quid, If you go to airport it seems likely that the flight will be over subscribed. Virgin are quite likley to ask for volunteers to get off flight and they usually offer big incentives to do this. If you have hotels you can cancel and get ya money back you are quite likley to get a new flight, probably with an upgrade and may even some cash back too. I've never been in a position to be able to get off a flight cos of business etc, but have been sorely tempted with some of the inducements they offer. Of course if you cant get the money back on ya hotels I'd go, I'm sure you'll have a good time anyway, altho some attractions may be shut.
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