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How should the non-party political left respond to the rise of the far right?

That is a massively important question. And, I'd add to what extent is there variation by class, location, age, sex and so on. If anyone has read or seen any decent work on these types of questions please share it.
funnily enough DAN EVANS no less shared this on twitter the other day
It for the USA though but the trend is the trend
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which builds on a trend: Bowling Alone was from the late 90s....
again USA
 
funnily enough DAN EVANS no less shared this on twitter the other day
It for the USA though but the trend is the trend

From his trendy Cardiff loft apartment no doubt..

Seriously, thanks for this Ska. A useful starting point.
 
Yeah, I don't know how typical this is... but I've had something like 14 or 15 different workplaces and (I think) about 27 different addresses in my life so far. What sort of foundation is that for workplace or locality organising?
 
A useful starting point.
yes i think its only a starting point tbh. As you say variation by class, location, age, sex is the more important bit and that requires a proper academic study.

My feeling is there is a massive gap out there for putting things on in public spaces and being publicly visible. Its more expensive, its a hassle, venues cost a lot etc etc, but it can really solidify connections and commitments. It need to be inviting to randoms and not subcultural.

The other thing that I think could be vastly improved is to make talks/public meetings far more interactive and facilitated so people meet each other and build friendships, rather than consume information and leave.

Here in London a group called Brick Lane Debates had a short but fruitful run of events like this. A bit more like Spanish 'circles' (it came out of that time) than your usual lecture, and did result in people making political friendship groups, but it fizzled out too quickly. Its a good model, Id love to see more of it. It requires knowledgeable facilitating though.
 
funnily enough DAN EVANS no less shared this on twitter the other day
It for the USA though but the trend is the trend
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which builds on a trend: Bowling Alone was from the late 90s....
again USA

From the The Atlantic article, needs cross-posting to the knife crime thread...

“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone to poor neighborhoods in big cities, and the community leaders tell me the real crisis for poor teenagers is that there’s just not much for them to do anymore, and nowhere to go,” Klinenberg told me. “I’d like to see the government build social infrastructure for teenagers with the creativity and generosity with which video-game companies build the toys that keep them inside. I’m thinking of athletic fields, and public swimming pools, and libraries with beautiful social areas for young people to hang out together.”
 
that said I think younger people stuck in renting DO move around a lot more than my generation.

I'd be interested to see recent stats about workplace/job stability and moving related to various professions and jobs.

Anecdotely almost everyone I've worked with in the NHS who I chatted to who wasn't a doctor seemed to live and work pretty much where they were born - apart from the international nurses etc. which is another complicated factor in the healthcare workforce. One nurse I knew born and working in Wakefield all his life so far (he was in his late 30s) had been to London once and wasn't going back, said it was 'very unpleasant' - or words along those lines.
 
From the The Atlantic article, needs cross-posting to the knife crime thread...

“I can’t tell you how many times I’ve gone to poor neighborhoods in big cities, and the community leaders tell me the real crisis for poor teenagers is that there’s just not much for them to do anymore, and nowhere to go,” Klinenberg told me. “I’d like to see the government build social infrastructure for teenagers with the creativity and generosity with which video-game companies build the toys that keep them inside. I’m thinking of athletic fields, and public swimming pools, and libraries with beautiful social areas for young people to hang out together.”
I've been a bit involved with a project to improve a woodland / sports area which has some of this at its heart - turning a bit of a dispiriting community space into one that sparks joy and has facilities for hanging out. And tbh it's totally burnt me out - the amount that funders/council expect 'communities' (eg one or two volunteers) to do is beyond places that don't have loads of retired middle class people with existing knowledge/skills.

So yeah, the crucial bit for me there is '"I'd like to see the government build". That's what makes me a bit wary of some of the ideas around building social infrastructure as part of political action - as with social spaces, it's just forcing unpaid work on people that should be paid for.
 
the amount that funders/council expect 'communities' (eg one or two volunteers) to do is beyond places that don't have loads of retired middle class people with existing knowledge/skills.

leaving aside the politics / ethics of expecting volunteers to pick up the pieces of what used to be public sector work, the number of 'early retirement with a decent pension' people that the voluntary sector has relied on for the last couple of decades is dwindling and a lot of voluntary organisations are struggling to get enough volunteers now...
 
Yeah, I think the "let the government build it" thing is a trade-off between different sets of problems rather than a straightforwardly better option - even if anyone feels straightforwardly positive about the idea of Starmer-run yoof clubs or whatever, I'm not sure that "Starmer-run yoof club that doesn't immediately lose all its funding when the Badenoch/Farage coalition takes over in '29" is a more realistic alternative to anything.
In terms of a medium-term goal, I reckon that maybe the best thing to aim for might be for people to get paid more money for working shorter hours and retiring earlier so that doing voluntary/community stuff isn't so much of a drain on a few people's over-stretched free time and resources. Not that I really have a realistic plan for how to get to that goal either.
 
The end of the new Phil Neel interview is maybe relevant to some of the discussions on this thread, even if he is technically the "pro-party but in a smartarse way that differs from how everyone else uses that term" left:

In Italy, militancy is mainly concentrated in large university cities, which, however, demographically, socially and culturally are minoritarian. Some collectives are beginning to ask how to intervene within different contexts, have you wondered what might be useful paths in this regard? Or should we hope for an autonomous development of militancy in these contexts?


This condition is common not just in Italy but across many countries. At the same time, we also have a tendency to read this problem in registers drawn from the past, treating it much the same way that the New Left did sixty or so years ago. But a lot of things have also changed in that time. For example, you say that large university cities are the minority and, while I understand what you mean, the largest universities are generally in the largest cities, and today they are also often among the largest employers in those cities. And, compared to fifty years ago, many of these jobs are low-wage, high-demand positions. I’m not sure what the conditions of work are in Italy, but in the US, for example, the bulk of university classes today are taught by adjuncts or grad students being paid less than your average factory worker. Meanwhile, universities today are vast real estate schemes that help to anchor local property markets. They also serve as sites of advanced R&D for military-industrial interests. If a militant strike among academic workers shuts down the premiere research university in a given city, this will therefore have a substantial economic impact. Moreover, as higher education has generalized across the population, more students today come from lower-class backgrounds. More are therefore working low-wage jobs outside the university, commuting back to working-class neighborhoods, and of course suffering under immense debt. So these are, in every way, major sites of class conflict in and of themselves. We have to abandon that old idea from the New Left that these are “bourgeois” strata or even “professionals” that somehow aren’t part of the larger proletarian class and therefore need to enter into that class from outside. In all but the most elite institutions, that simply is no longer true.


But there is always a problem of insularity, whether you’re talking about the university versus society, different industrial sectors, or even different occupations within the same sector. Most class organizing emerges first in the form of specific subsistence struggles, which focus on the immediate terms of survival: how much are you getting paid, how much does your rent cost, is your job likely to kill you, are the police likely to kill you, etc. But these issues are also often contradictory, since they are simultaneously specific (i.e., this group of workers making specific wage demands relative to this workplace) and also general, resonating with larger segments of the class (i.e., everyone’s wages are too low). On top of this, struggles tend to trigger larger conflicts that then take on added meanings and gain their own momentum, becoming important expressions of class conflict in and of themselves—and thereby completely exceeding their initial subsistence concerns. We see these contradictions then play out in tactical tensions...

There are plenty of historical examples of how this has been done in the past. But it’s a fundamentally practical question, which means that it’s very sensitive to the local problems you are facing. You can’t just transplant these models from history into the present because they were inseparable from their environment. If you try, you end up with a dead, empty husk: the various sects that think of themselves as “parties” and “unions” today, for example. Meanwhile, basic structural shifts in employment and geodemographics have obviously changed the coordinates such that it no longer makes sense to try to build a peasant army today, for example, even if the historic experience of revolutionary organizing among peasants still offers useful lessons. So, we really have to respond to your core question by breaking it down and sharpening it into a series of more pointed ones: what exactly are these collectives who hope to escape the university trying to do, and where are they attempting to go? Similarly, what do they conceive of as “militancy” and how is it measured? And, on top of this, we’d then need to understand more of the specific social conditions involved.

Obviously, it helps to build breadth beyond one’s immediate surroundings. But there’s also a tendency to disregard our own experiences of class and the various subsistence struggles that we face day-to-day, imagining that the “real” struggle is located elsewhere, among some special demographic that is somehow closer to a pure proletarian condition. People then attempt to self-flagellate, denying their own existence and instead seeking out this “pure” experience of class or playacting at a more fanciful image of “militancy.” In reality, we all experience different aspects of proletarian existence. We can fight against it from multiple positions, so long as, in the process, we are also exceeding those positions...

And that’s because the whole “marketplace of ideas” model where we go and “communicate” our politics and try to get people to agree with us is ass-backwards. This is the problem with all those people who think the failure of the uprisings of the 2010s was that they chose to adhere to principles of “horizontalism” and “leaderlessness.” No one chose this, of course, and plenty of people were there arguing for the opposite—and, in fact, the “worker’s party” was tried in Greece (SYRIZA), in Spain (Podemos), in the US (Sanders), and in the UK (Corbyn), and it systematically failed as well, for remarkably similar reasons. Ultimately, the point is that political ideas aren’t adopted through skillful argumentation. They’re inscribed into us in our physical life. You can argue all day with someone that the police aren’t “part of the 99%” and no matter how reasonable you are, how much evidence you offer, they will still not believe you. But if they go out and get bonked on the head just once by a police baton, they are suddenly a convert. It is, quite literally, a political baptism—with all the religious shock that this entails. Ideas don’t enter the mind through the ears, they enter through open wounds, through joints burning after endless shifts of dead-end jobs, through feet blistered by long days on the picket line, through hands torn open by some machine, arms coated in grease scars, the lining of lungs filled with teargas. One consequence of this is that, insofar as we “communicate” our political ideas, we do so largely through action in the moment of the revolt.
Nice casual demolition of Bevins there as well.
 
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