Hondo's plans for a huge tower on Pope's Road, Brixton and the Brixton Project

[cuppa tee]

Housekeeping could have played a set during the interval.

...not if they wanted folks to stay awake for the second half.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr question. Will retail be let to independent traders not chains?

Officer replies by quoting Hondo

Officers are doing great job for Hondo.

 

[Gramsci]

Officer says Hondo are doing great job running the two markets in Brixton.

 

[editor]

Cllr question. Will retail be let to independent traders not chains?

Officer replies by quoting Hondo

Officers are doing great job for Hondo.

It's just embarrassing.

 

[editor]

Officer says Hondo are doing great job running the two markets in Brixton.

Which is totally fucking irrelevant to this proposal.

 

[wurlycurly]

Officer says Hondo are doing great job running the two markets in Brixton.

Priceless. You couldn't make this stuff up.

 

[scmw]

Are the planning officers meant to scrutinise Hondos plans? They're seemingly chosen to absolve any thought process for themselves. I'd be sacked if I took this approach at work!

 

[wurlycurly]

This isn't democracy.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Kind question

Height. Council tall buildings study says should be less in this area

Officer reply. Officer says this is emerging policy. Scheme judged on merits public benefit versus harm to conservation area.

Cllr Kind. Site 16 of Local Plan. What is canyon referred to in this?

Officer reply. Policy Q7 general policy on canyon development.

Cllr Kind why specified for this site? (Canyon development) canyon effect of tall building. Specific for this site.

 

[wurlycurly]

This thread is better than the Champions League final.

 

[scmw]

Fuck me they have the gall to say they are supportive of this and is an amalgamation of the are. How can you say this with a straight face.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Simpson question. Applicants meet excellent design if very tall building.

Conservation council officer replies. World famous architect designed this. Fine building by leading architect. A quality building.

 

[CH1]

What the hell is Doug Black going on about? Muscular concrete forms teasing out the character of Brixton as exemplified by arch openings in Electric Avenue etc.
Yet he clearly couldn't sayi it was design excellence - but this is a world class architect and its the building you have before you. Yeah.

 

[editor]

Cllr Simpson question. Applicants meet excellent design if very tall building.

Conservation council officer replies. World famous architect designed this. Fine building by leading architect. A quality building.

It's such high quality that an overwhelming 0.7% of 700+ respondents on Lambeth's site were in favour of it. That's how good it is. World class.

 

[scmw]

God this officer loves the "ecosystem" which he seemed unable to explain.

 

[wurlycurly]

What the hell is Doug Black going on about? Muscular concrete forms teasing out the character of Brixton as exemplified by arch openings in Electric Avenue etc.
Yet he clearly couldn't sayi it was design excellence - but this is a world class architect and its the building you have before you. Yeah.

"Muscular concrete forms teasing out the character of Brixton." Somebody make them stop!

 

[editor]

"Muscular concrete forms teasing out the character of Brixton." Somebody make them stop!

Would that be the same muscular concrete forms that have resulted in the eviction of small businesses and the complete closure of Atlantic Road?

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr question on viability and height. ( Is scheme not viable if lower)

Officer reply. Size of scheme required. Critical size needed for this kind of scheme. Scheme respond to Council Creative Enterprise Zone. More office space is sought by Council. Scheme responding to Council "drivers" . Needs to be this amount of office space to have office Ecosystem. Small business can grow in building.

Massing corresponds to the site.

( Officers just love this planning application)

Officer continues significant benefits. Generates employment. Scheme needs to be this size to do this.

Smaller scheme would not give this amount of improvement to public realm.

( So officers see this scheme as big cash injection to Brixton.)

 

[Gramsci]

Hondo must be loving this. Planning officers promoting the scheme to the Cllrs.

 

[editor]

This seems a timely article

Revealed: London councils take funds from developers to pay for planning guidelines

Critics say ‘poachers have become gamekeepers’ as a result, but councils deny conflict of interest

www.theguardian.com

 

[CH1]

Would that be the same muscular concrete forms that have resulted in the eviction of small businesses and the complete closure of Atlantic Road?

I presumed he was making a statement for Pseuds corner in Private Eye.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Kind is great at asking questions

 

[wurlycurly]

Cllr Kind is great at asking questions

About time. We wanted councillors. They gave us cheerleaders.

 

[cuppa tee]

 

[wurlycurly]

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It's ugly outside and inside. They should call it the Trump Tower.

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Kind concern that additions to deal with micro climate mitigation will alter appearance but no pictures of this for Cllrs

 

[Gramsci]

Cllr Kind question on consultation. Where have recent supportive comments come from?

31 new supports for scheme from market.

Apparently 142 recent comments supporting the scheme.

 

[scmw]

31 new supports for scheme from market.

Apparently 142 recent comments supporting the scheme.

Great question - credit to answering with a straight face.

 

[Gramsci]

Starting to get feeling Cllrs aren't happy with application

 

[editor]

Cllr Kind question on consultation. Where have recent supportive comments come from?

31 new supports for scheme from market.

Apparently 142 recent comments supporting the scheme.

What the fuck? That's not even slightly suspicious, is it?